Bee Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 To Further this football thing, Two opposing towns would cook a feast and wrap it in a skin and then wage a battle to get it to one of the towns. The winner hosted the feast. Who wants to play? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Hello Bee 13 minutes ago, Bee said: Two opposing towns would cook a feast and ... Villarriba and Villabajo? Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Little bit of background on this - I'll try to keep it short. Original image was done by my wife using Midjourney AI. She used a photo of our dog and it produced a crazy 898,760 colour image. I used it in a VBXE demo after reducing it to 1024 colours (was not happy with the results of how I did this). @flashjazzcat then used it in one of his videos running the VBXE in an 800. While working on VBXE images, I decided to write an implementation of the median cut algorithm since I could not find anything to generate > 256 colour images. While writing / testing it, I did 2, 4, 8, etc. colour images. I found that Rasta Convertor did a perfect implementation of the 2, 4, 8 colour images and greatly struggled with the 16 colour image. I let it run for a billion iterations and the normal distance only dropped to 29 so I did not try the higher colour versions. I am attaching the 4 images. Altirra Screenshots: My Flickr album of the originals of Psychedelic Stanley (2 through 1024 + the original): Rasta XEXs: Stephen_Stanley_2Colours.xexStephen_Stanley_4Colours.xexStephen_Stanley_8Colours.xexStephen_Stanley_16Colours.xex 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) My eyes are in a color overload bucket of rainbow love, Lisa Frank is on fire. Edited January 3, 2023 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 8:08 AM, MrFish said: So, here's the first one (of @pseudografx backgrounds) -- in RastaConverter, anyway. It solved up pretty quick, though maybe not as tough a prospect as some of the other backgrounds he made (we'll see...). Normal Distance 0.48 Fantastic. Would love to see an XEX of this and any others to run on Altirra and real A8 hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I've only started hearing about these AI art images in recent months, but don't fully understand yet, but I think I heard that you can tell give the AI a description of something and it will interpret the description and make a piece of art out of it, and now @Stephen said a photo of their dog was given to an AI to come up with art. What other ways can such AI images be made? What are the different parameters that can be used? Photos, images, descriptions it seems. Is it pretty extensive? How about Poems or full stories? I'll do my own research I guess, but just want a bit more of an idea of what can be used to give the AI a starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, madness77 said: No offense my American friends, but all over the World (except the US) the name "Football" means only one game: You forget Canada also has our form of Football, we aren't alone. And we don't care anyway. We also have Baseball across the Americas and Japan, and Basketball and Hockey and we prefer them all over Soccer, in the high scool, college and professional arenas. We'd rather start a women's professional Basketball league that nobody likes or watches than a soccer league! That's how much we don't care. No offense to to our friends in the rest of the world (besides Canada, we're proud to have you on board). Edited January 3, 2023 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Bee said: To Further this football thing, Two opposing towns would cook a feast and wrap it in a skin and then wage a battle to get it to one of the towns. The winner hosted the feast. Who wants to play? I'd rather watch or play that than soccer! Where do I sign up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Beeblebrox said: Fantastic. Would love to see an XEX of this and any others to run on Altirra and real A8 hardware. Interestingly, I was busy with this over the weekend (before the soccer subject came up in this thread): Sensible Soccer So, I didn't mess around with the IK stuff any further, yet; but I'll see if I can post some XEX's today... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Beeblebrox said: Fantastic. Would love to see an XEX of this and any others to run on Altirra and real A8 hardware. Here's London, the Torii, and @pseudografx capitol building. I converted the Torii and London images to NTSC too, using @Sheddy's batch utility. They came out pretty well, minus a few (not really noticeable) color misses (due to RastaConverter code optimization/timing techniques). The PAL files are all the same as the ones I posted screenshots for, above. IKU06 PAL.xex IKU06 NTSC.xex IKU07 PAL.xex IKU07 NTSC.xex IK Capitol PAL.xex 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 capitol ntsc please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 12:36 PM, MrFish said: @pseudografx capitol building. I was able to edit most (all but 2 pixels) of the skin for this in Graph2Font. They all look a bit pale in the original conversion. I'll adjust the color before processing the original over again later. IK Capitol PAL (2).xex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: capitol ntsc please. Here you go; but it's the pale-skin version, because @Sheddy's converter doesn't like output from Graph2Font. So, it'll have to wait until I reconvert it. IK Capitol NTSC.xex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) @MrFish ah these look fantastic full screen on Altirra and no doubt on real hardware. I'll load em up a little later on my 800XL. PAL Capital looks amazing. Nice one. Edited January 3, 2023 by Beeblebrox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, MrFish said: I was able to edit most (all but 2 pixels) of the skin for this in Graph2Font. They all look a bit pale in the original conversaion. I'll adjust the color before processing the original over again later. IK Capitol PAL (2).xex 22.49 kB · 2 downloads This one I believe I can do easily with just DLI's using the A8 art program Rambrandt and it will look the same, a low color count. In fact, I believe I can improve it with more color using just DLI's. Give those trees some brown trunks, etc. Edited January 3, 2023 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Gunstar said: This one I believe I can do easily with just DLI's using the A8 art program Rambrandt and it will look the same, a low color count. Low color count total; but the catch is, you've got 3 greens + 3 grays + white (and some cases where you can add blue to that), all on multiple single lines. Even on the upper part, 3 grays + white + blue on single lines is going to put you over... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gunstar said: This one I believe I can do easily with just DLI's using the A8 art program Rambrandt and it will look the same, a low color count. In fact, I believe I can improve it with more color using just DLI's. Give those trees some brown trunks, etc. Yes sir, I guess I should have zoomed in more, I didn't see quite all the green and grey shades in there. Still, I think I will give it an attempt using Rambrandt with it's limitations, not to try to get a 1-1 copy, and not for something that could go into IK/IK+, but just a similar image using less colors per scan line, but more color overall in a similar image. It's been years since I used Rambrandt, but I think one of the modes might have been a 5 color mode including the background color. Maybe not, maybe it's only a 4 color mode. But either way, I'll see what I can come up with just for fun. Not to post in this thread either, I'll start a new thread for graphic images using only Atari graphic art programs, but have it include any art program made on the Atari for any graphic mode, including ones made to use software modes using mixed mode DLI/VBI's. I've been itching to get back into Atari graphics with available art programs on the Atari anyway and see what I can accomplish. I used to use a few back in the day and made a number of graphic images that are long lost, but that was also long before I was college educated in proper art techniques. I also never tried restricting myself to less than full screen so I could use them in graphic text adventure programs which is something I started teaching myself programming for, as well as hacking old graphic text programs that were released that never took advantage of DLI's, just to improve the graphics in those games that only used 4/5 colors. Keeping the basic original artwork, but just adding in more color with DLI's with some, but also creating some graphics from scratch, with the same basic subject matter or scenes, to match the text descriptions, but my own art. All right, I won't derail this thread any further with my ideas... Edited January 4, 2023 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nasty niff Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Football 3.5 billion people can't be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, mistapaul said: Football 3.5 billion people can't be wrong So less than half makes a minority... fail. Gotta make up some better 'statistic' hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nasty niff Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: So less than half makes a minority... fail. Gotta make up some better 'statistic' hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpeter Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 You like potato and I like potahtoYou like tomato and I like tomahtoPotato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto.Let's call the whole thing off ⚽🏈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) more useless 'statistics' over half the population could care less, and do. They even count kids held for hostage who don't like sports at all. Nice assumptions though. Let's count everyone who has seen a soccer game and try to put them in the foot the ball category. Edited January 5, 2023 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Less talk more photos. Nobody gives a shit about word semantics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 335 million iterations, 10.9 normal, 59 colours, laoo PAL palette Stephen_Handegg.xex Stephen_Handegg.xex 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 This one's almost done. There were a few mis-colored pixels in @pseudografx's original image, on top of the "O" in the word DEMO. I didn't notice this until after I started processing for a while. I was able to fix the PAL version in Graph2Font, but the version converted to NTSC retains it (for the time being). I'll have fix the colors in the source and reprocess for a corrected NTSC version (same as with the last image for the skin color). I did adjust the skin color before processing this time. So, that's all correct for PAL and NTSC. Normal Distance: 0.83 IK Taj PAL (2).xex IK Taj NTSC.xex 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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