Dubstep on C64

[amiman99]

I was trolling the Youtube and found this:

Dubstep music made on C64, sometimes it still amazes me what can be done with the SID.

[Protoplasym]

That sounds terrible... but I see what the guy was going for. I don't think he did the SID chip justice. I am curious what he used to sequence this with though...

[amiman99]

It sounds awesome for me! I listen to it like 20 times to figure out how it was made.

I think in Dubstep, the base is distorted on purpose. this music is not for everyone, it's a acquired taste. Some Dubstep examples here:

[madmax2069]

Dubstep is a curse to any genera if music. Kill it, kill it now.

I can't stand dubstep

[amiman99]

Dubstep is a curse to any genera if music. Kill it, kill it now.

I can't stand dubstep

I hope this video can change your mind, yes, some stuff is awful, but along the trash there is a treasure like this:

[Elerach]

Dubstep is some of the most painfully simplistic music ever created - a blight on humanity. KILL IT NOW, BEFORE IT SPREADS!

[Protoplasym]

Dubstep is a curse to any genera if music. Kill it, kill it now.

I can't stand dubstep

 

Dubstep is some of the most painfully simplistic music ever created - a blight on humanity. KILL IT NOW, BEFORE IT SPREADS!

 

There's too much ignorance in this thread... it doesn't sound like you guys know dick about Electronic Music.

 

I hope this video can change your mind, yes, some stuff is awful, but along the trash there is a treasure like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjpOzsQ9YI

 

Here you are simply trying to be nice and show someone what is good about dubstep, and instead you've linked to more generic copycat e. music. I know you meant well, but bless your heart... you don't know any better apparently. Glad you enjoy the tune you linked to, but honestly... what you've linked to is very generic.

 

 

 

I don't imagine I'll come across many on this board who know much about dance music in general... so I'll stop now... I've enough crusades as it is

[amiman99]

@Protoplasym

Sometimes generic simple music is all you need to get you started. I LOVE electronic music, the less known the better.

When I listen to the radio, I cant even tell the singers names to todays music

I have been following Electronic / Techno music since 1980s, from Kraftwerk (The Legends), Jean Micheal Jarre (70/80 synth music), Laser Dance, Orbital, Enigma, Chemical Brothers, FSOL (awesome electronica), Fatboy Slim (I got his CDs before he got famous), Messiah, Aphex Twin (WOW music), Squarepusher, PLUG, that's only few.

I stopped following new groups in early 2000s, the stuff got too commercialized.

The range you see is diverse.

 

Do you have any other recommendations?

[Austin]

There's too much ignorance in this thread... it doesn't sound like you guys know dick about Electronic Music.

 

Here you are simply trying to be nice and show someone what is good about dubstep, and instead you've linked to more generic copycat e. music. I know you meant well, but bless your heart... you don't know any better apparently. Glad you enjoy the tune you linked to, but honestly... what you've linked to is very generic.

 

There's no need to act elitist about it.. although, there is little point in me saying that to you, because you have clearly shown through your relatively short stay here, that what goes through your head is the law, and no amount of convincing in the world will ever get you to think otherwise. And hell, it's not even so much about getting you to think otherwise (we all have our own opinions), as it is getting you to understand that there will always be plenty of grey area outside of the rigid, black and white thoughts that seem to be solidified in your mind. Basically, everyone will have a reason for doing the things they do, or enjoying the things they do, and there is no need to belittle them because they are able to find peace in something that you do not.

 

@animan99: I really got into electronic music about 7 years ago, and have slowly been discovering a lot of old stuff I missed (the classics, like Orbital, Fat Boy Slim, Leftfield, Chemical Bros, etc), but I have found a lot of stuff that isn't quite as popular. I started off with the gothic/industrial/ebm sub-genres, then that led into trance, and from there I discovered house, progressive, techno (actual techno), breakbeats/breaks, and of course, drum & bass and a little bit of dubstep. I have a pretty big collection of tracks now, and my physical disc EDM collection eclipses my rock collection now.

 

For recommendations, I'll start with the general overarching Global Underground series of mix albums. They are usually excellent, some of them housing my favorite dj mixes to this date: James Lavelle's "Barcelona" (breakbeats on one disc, and older progressive-house on the other disc), and Deep Dish's "Toronto" (house & progressive). As far as more underground or less popular suggestions go, for house/progressive, lately I have really been into Luke Fair. For big sounding, really energetic Breaks, I have bought a crap-ton of tracks from Elite Force (aka the man!), Meat Katie, Access Denied, BSD, and more. For drum & bass, I would suggest Futurebound & Matrix (although admittedly, my dnb knowledge is pretty low overall).

 

On the popular side of things, there are some great acts as well. The Crystal Method has some of my favorite albums out there ("Vegas" and "Tweekend"), Deadmau5 is great on the progressive/house side of things (his album "For Lack of a Better Name" is a favorite of mine, starting off banging and then going deep halfway through). Adam Freeland is a favorite of mine as well, with a mixture of underground and pop sounds (both his production albums "Cope" and "Now and Them" are mainstays in my listening library). Anyway, that "Crystallize" track you posted--I really like it. I heard it a while back, and thought it was good (to me). It's a perfect example of Dubstep that can sound catchy, emotional and attractive to the uneducated ear. There are facets of that in every style of electronic music, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, there is absolutely no shame in liking something that is popular. Hell, one of my absolute favorite dance tracks is by Tiesto ("Suburban Train", to be exact), and everybody loves to hate him. Just because it's popular (or was by someone that is popular), and just because it sounds "simplistic", doesn't mean it's inherently "bad". Tastes will differ, and the stuff that gives you chills might not jive the same with someone else.

 

If you want to find other stuff that barely sells, I'd suggest spending time digging through the available tracks at dj-focused EDM download portals like Beatport (the most popular of them), djdownload.com, AudioJelly, etc. The breadth of electronic music as a whole is generally made up of tiny independent labels that barely go anywhere. You are bound to find something you will like that few have listened to.

[+orpheuswaking]

Jean Michel Jarre - Nuff Said

[madmax2069]

 

 

 

 

There's too much ignorance in this thread... it doesn't sound like you guys know dick about Electronic Music

 

Just a heads up, just because I hate dubstep doesn't mean I have to hate electronic music. Dubstep is after all not tied to any one genre , but is a bastardization of them. And nothing that anyone will say will make me like that garbage.

 

If someone was to ask me to explain what dubstep is, I would tell them to think of a chainsaw screwing a toaster.

Edited September 14, 2012 by madmax2069

[amiman99]

@Austin

thank for the tips.

I listened to Elite Force - The Law Of Life, this song sound like Prodigy, few other of Elite Force sounds like Dub Step.Meat Katie breakbeats are nice,Access Denied - Paranoia sound good too. Never heard these groups.

Crystal Method, Global Underground collection, DJ Tiesto, I got most of them.

 

Here is another C64 example, its not dubstep, but cool anyway

 

Edited September 15, 2012 by amiman99

[nonner242]

Im not a fan of Dub step stuff, I'll listen to it if its on sometimes but dont really have the urge to go out and find/buy/DL it at all.

Im a huge electronic music fan tho. Since the early 80s. I started with Throbbing Gristle/Joy Division/Front 242/KraftWerk/Bauhaus.

From then till the late 90's I continued to still love it, more bands and sub genre came about. BiGod 20,Frontline Assembly,Clock DVA,Haujobb,Skinny Puppy,Ministry,Singnal Aut 42,NIN,Nitz Ebb,Clan of Xymox,Peter Murphy.

Also during the late 80's early 90's Alot of odd Electronic music came about some sucked but some was awesome...it was almost rave music but had more appeal. The best I can discribe it was something like the Tempest 2000 soundrack. To bad so many song/composers were anonymous. But I liked most just the same.. It had a strange Harshness and Darkness to it and that was what I liked.

I DJ'd at a Industrial club for a few years around 2000 and there is something about some songs that are just better at a club...with ppl...the atmosphere..that just dont work when your at home or in your can by yourself. At the club it takes on a new life and it just cannot be duplicated. It is weird. But time and time again it happened.

To me alot of the good electronic music died in the early to mid 2000s. I think to0 much stuff got popularized.. everyone was Goth or Emo... Firestarter was played to death..lol.

And the music just took on a different lame feeling from any of the original starter bands. Now its all Im CRAZY dont cha know! or Im SO SEXY! Party Drunk Music. Go listen to any of the older stuff it had some meaning to them a story a theme. Not all "Im going to g g ge ge get high s s s s so so d dddd drunk I can Fly, party till the bb b b break of dawn, bullshit now a days. And god STOP with all the Remixes...cross overs ...mashups...damn!

I still to this day listen to all the older stuff, its still good.

I have found very few bands in the last 10-15 years worth mentioning but I will say here are a few that keep me interested. Some new and oldies too.

 

Wolfshiem

Deine Lakaien

VNV Nation

God Module

Cubanate

Colbalt 60

Royksopp

Depeche Mode

Cleen

Wumpscut

Evils Toy

Fisher Spooner

 

And before I forget to mention it I love ALL music..well except RAP! and country.

Southern Rock Rules and I still think the best music came from 1969-1986. Thats when ppl were not affraid to change it up and just do what they wanted to do in music, not just cuz it was popular.

[Blacklight]

I'm an experimental musician and I can do a lot better. This guy tried though, so I'll give him that. You don't learn by not trying.

There's a couple of ways this guy could have done this. First off, there's a tracker for the C64 called Cynthcart which is a freebie you can get off the net and run on a C64 or an emulator.

What I like to do, if I decide to make C64 music (which might be blasphemy to C64 fans), is to use virtual instruments that I downloaded for my digital audio workstation. I happen to have three that are emulations of the C64 sound chip and they all work fantastic. They're callled "Bleep", Unknown 64", and "basic 64". That way there. I can load as many instances of them as I want and basically have an orchestra of C64's all generating coreographed music!

[keilbaca]

There's too much ignorance in this thread... it doesn't sound like you guys know dick about Electronic Music.

 

 

 

Here you are simply trying to be nice and show someone what is good about dubstep, and instead you've linked to more generic copycat e. music. I know you meant well, but bless your heart... you don't know any better apparently. Glad you enjoy the tune you linked to, but honestly... what you've linked to is very generic.

 

 

 

I don't imagine I'll come across many on this board who know much about dance music in general... so I'll stop now... I've enough crusades as it is

 

We have a rule at the house that I am living at now: no dubstep. Its not that great. Doesn't hurt that one of the roommates spins happy hardcore

 

Off topic (but still on topic): Going to see Angerfist Friday night. I can't wait!

[Arkhan]

Dubstep sucks.

 

 

If I want to hear robots having sex, I'll watch Transformers porn.

[amiman99]

I had no idea there was so much animosity towards DUBSTEP in here.

[Austin]

I had no idea there was so much animosity towards DUBSTEP in here.

 

That's usually how it is with anything that is popular.

[SlowCoder]

Here you are simply trying to be nice and show someone what is good about dubstep, and instead you've linked to more generic copycat e. music. I know you meant well, but bless your heart... you don't know any better apparently. Glad you enjoy the tune you linked to, but honestly... what you've linked to is very generic.

I'll admit to my ignorance ... But the chick is cute. If I wasn't married I might say something like "she can play my violin and dubstep all over me as much as she wants." But I am married, so I won't say that.

[Necron99]

I cringe when I hear Dubstep. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and am now in "the older crowd" when going to a club, or maybe it's because it often annoyingly launches from something nice to ear crushing noise.

 

I used to love the "dance" scene. it was great when everyone got along and respected one another. My experience in attempting to like this music is that the crowds tend to be a bunch of college/university kids who get too drunk and think there's a mosh pit instead of a dance floor.

I've seen people get badly hurt, fighting, guys doing undignified things to girls, etc etc. I went to clubs for almost 10 years and often seen drunken fools but not anywhere near the crap from the dubstep scene.

 

Maybe things are different elsewhere,but that's my experience.

 

that being said, Dubstep on C64.....more tolerable than the real thing!

Edited September 21, 2012 by Necron99

[amiman99]

I gave up Clubbing like 10 years ago, my friends were DJs, so I got the best seats. Mostly Underground and D&B in late 1990s. Good times.

[keilbaca]

I cringe when I hear Dubstep. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and am now in "the older crowd" when going to a club, or maybe it's because it often annoyingly launches from something nice to ear crushing noise.

 

I used to love the "dance" scene. it was great when everyone got along and respected one another. My experience in attempting to like this music is that the crowds tend to be a bunch of college/university kids who get too drunk and think there's a mosh pit instead of a dance floor.

I've seen people get badly hurt, fighting, guys doing undignified things to girls, etc etc. I went to clubs for almost 10 years and often seen drunken fools but not anywhere near the crap from the dubstep scene.

 

Maybe things are different elsewhere,but that's my experience.

 

that being said, Dubstep on C64.....more tolerable than the real thing!

 

Nah, its the same here too. I avoid dubstep parties for this very reason. Too many bros, too many drunken frats, and too many prostitots ruining the scene.

[Arkhan]

I've gone to some raves/dance shit.

 

I'm not old. The stuff just sounds stupid and it basically just gives drugged up ravers an excuse to slowly grind on each others crotches instead of doing it at warp speed like all the good music.

 

They did this stuff at an anime convention a few weeks ago and i just stood back and laughed at how stupid everyone looked. It was one of the worst raves I've ever experienced actually. EVERY song had a breakdown in it.

 

 

 

they probably did it so all the fat kids could catch their breath.

[amiman99]

...they probably did it so all the fat kids could catch their breath...

That's funny!!!

[Blacklight]

Dubstep is HUGE with the teens and college kids. It seems that 90% of electronic musicians in that age range produce dubstep. I'm kind of a background part of the Brony community and a HUGE portion of music that comes out of that fandom is dubstep and I think it's just the average age demographic of the fandom. The age range is generally 15 to 25 (It does skew older like I am, but the vast majority fall into this range) That's probably the reason that dubstep is so big in the community. It's just a case that it's this kind of music the "kids" are all into now that is completely alien to other generations.

Edited September 23, 2012 by Blacklight