+Gemintronic Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Which isn't of much use if you don't have a working C64... Read a little further down the page on that link, dawg. It has a stand-alone mode. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FujiSkunk Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Which isn't of much use if you don't have a working C64... That's what standalone mode is for. Of course then it's just an emulator... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) That's what standalone mode is for. Of course then it's just an emulator... An FPGA actually re-configures itself to be whatever hardware chip you program it to be. Certainty not original C64 but definitely hardware as opposed to software that emulates a C64. Edited October 17, 2012 by theloon Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FujiSkunk Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Firmware. I hear you, though. Either way you're not going to get any closer to the real thing, without the real thing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Since the new Commodore is only interested in making expensive PC clones I wonder if someone could make a new C64 board and stuff it into those nice new Commodore cases. Edited October 17, 2012 by theloon Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grevle Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) if they realy want to sell computers they should make brand new production run of the original c64.s and new Atari's ofcoarse. Wouldnt it be great with a New Atari 800 Xl With improvmenets like 320k standard, S-video and rgb and hdmi output, and dual pokey's based on the original 800Xl. Edited October 18, 2012 by Grevle Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) So the commodore 64 IS a computer then, i thought it was meant to keep bread fresh, or a home for bread...no wonder why my bread keeps going mouldy very quickly Edited October 18, 2012 by carmel_andrews Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) WRONG FORUM, PLEASE MOVE: http://www.atariage....ssic-computing/ Commodore 64 IS NOT an Atari 8-bit computer (although it (and many, many programmers) often wished) Edited October 18, 2012 by high voltage Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Totally agree...Wrong place and only likely to turn into the usual nonsense. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2620816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I thought it was going pretty well actually - nothing wrong with the odd sly joke so long as the intent of the original thread is respected - and I reckon it was. for the record I've only ever owned a couple of C64c machines and they've stood the test of time - it's disk drives I keep killing Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2621298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 I certainly did not start the topic in a mean spirited way. It was only a reflection of my poor experience and wondering if my experience was typical. I'm sorry if I upset anyone. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2621337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) I certainly did not start the topic in a mean spirited way. It was only a reflection of my poor experience and wondering if my experience was typical. I'm sorry if I upset anyone. No worries, you're fine. There are a few here who get too much sand in their vagina's at times. Edited October 20, 2012 by AtariLeaf 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2622252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) There are quite a few people on the scene who completely rebuild/restore/test and resell C=64 motherboards. Some for a pretty fair price. If you get a C=64 that doesnt work, I'd reccomend googling (or ebaying) a replacement board for it. And yeah, check the voltage output on any "unknown" PSU before you ever plug it in to a machine.. Caps dry up with age and short out, killing diodes, solid state rectifiers, and regulators in old PSUs.. depending on the crappiness of the design, this can result in unsafe voltage levels at the outputs that can harm your equipment. Edited October 26, 2012 by MEtalGuy66 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2626464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 where and who? I've been looking for a good working motherboard for ages. All I see are some untested boards on fleaBay for $60+ I can buy a whole C64 that is tested working for that! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2628123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well, I have a original C64 Breadbin model and a 64C the later designed version and both work perfectly, the 64c looks like new! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2628156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) I have several C64s, all of them working without any problems. But all my 1541s make trouble. To me they seem not to be as reliable as the Atari 1050. Edited October 28, 2012 by skr Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/204153-is-it-just-me-or-are-commodore-64s-built-like-crap/page/2/#findComment-2628170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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