Schizophretard Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Instruction manual?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Congratulations on the instruction manual find That's a guess, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 That's a guess, right? An educated guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I find it hard to believe these were ever circulated. The Tuesday morning one was a fluke if you ask me. Theory... The air raid "distributer" gave the store a free copy, in hopes they would place a large order for numerous copies, it sat in an office for a bit and somehow ended up on the bargain table as merchandise. I'm guessing all the surfaced copies were freebies at some point, no stores ever placed an order, and air raid distributer guy moved on to another get rich quick idea I personally think this is spot on. I'd be suprised if there are too many of these that surface. The Taiwanese are (were) amazing at making low cost low production run items. This is the third box that has surfaced and I wouldnt be suprised if another doesnt surface for a very long time, if ever. and dont expect a venezuealan find for this title either. The one thing that still puzzles me about Air raid is the fact that whilst it was made in taiwan, i have never come across a pirate cart with this title on it. Just about everything else has found its way onto a pirate cart except this, and the taiwanese clearly has access to the ROM. It just doesnt make sense at all..... Awesome find BTW, and there are a lot of collectors with deep pockets that would make this sell high if it was listed on ebay. Not sure whether GG is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 An educated guess. I wouldnt be suprised if there was no instruction manual for this. Taiwanese games often didnt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It just doesnt make sense at all..... This is one of the many reasons Air Raid is so awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss 2600 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If it's not a manual, maybe it's a letter or order form from the rep on how to order copies (just an idea I'm throwing out there, I have no idea what the surprise is, but am looking forward to finding out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The one thing that still puzzles me about Air raid is the fact that whilst it was made in taiwan, i have never come across a pirate cart with this title on it. Just about everything else has found its way onto a pirate cart except this, and the taiwanese clearly has access to the ROM. It just doesnt make sense at all..... I totally agree with you on this one. Virtually every other rom out there has been pirated by Taiwan and have been renamed and found their way on to multi carts. The sample idea has the most merit and would explain its rarity scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Dumb question time, but what's the gameplay like? I've never so much as even looked at the ROM or downloaded it, so I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If it's not a manual, maybe it's a letter or order form from the rep on how to order copies (just an idea I'm throwing out there, I have no idea what the surprise is, but am looking forward to finding out). That's what my money would be on. Perhaps some sort of letter or something talking about the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Dumb question time, but what's the gameplay like? I've never so much as even looked at the ROM or downloaded it, so I'm curious. It's basically a hack of space Jockey. If it didn't have such an odd cartridge, crazy rarity and such unexplained mystery behind it the game would be worth about $200, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Quadrun is more than $200, LOL! So, does Space Jockey also have the weird 290 scanline framerate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 My first thought was that the extra was an instruction manual, but then seeing the display case, I guess it is probably that. We shall see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 My first thought was that the extra was an instruction manual, but then seeing the display case, I guess it is probably that. We shall see. She said she will be listing the one the only true "CIB" Air Raid ever found, a display case would not make it CIB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's a Red Sea Crossing with cassette and colouring book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 So the rumored one is different from this one and the one that sold on Ebay? Correct! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Besides this one, only one is known to exist, and the other is rumored to exist by Terry Rutt. Rumored? so you think Terry (or Ben) just guessed at the name many years before the first box ever showed up? I would say 100% it exists! Rick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If it is a manual or some kind of documentation then would they get more money if they just describe what kind of information it has instead of scanning or revealing the specifics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 She said she will be listing the one the only true "CIB" Air Raid ever found, a display case would not make it CIB. If a rep from Men-A-Vision gave the game to the father then maybe it contained an order form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If it is a manual or some kind of documentation then would they get more money if they just describe what kind of information it has instead of scanning or revealing the specifics? This type of information is important for historical documentation. Most high profile buyers tend to hoard their collections and not reveal them to the world. If a manual indeed exists, this is probably the one and only golden opportunity to reveal it to the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 This type of information is important for historical documentation. Most high profile buyers tend to hoard their collections and not reveal them to the world. If a manual indeed exists, this is probably the one and only golden opportunity to reveal it to the world. What historical documentation has most high profile buyers not revealed to the world? It might be like a ROM dump in a way. Someone may pay more to be the first to know and/or dump the historical documentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 What historical documentation has most high profile buyers not revealed to the world? It might be like a ROM dump in a way. Someone may pay more to be the first to know and/or dump the historical documentation. Or he may just hoard it. A lot of high profile prototype owners like to sit on the game and refuse to dump it unless the community pays a ransom note on it. Plenty of NES prototypes have been lost to time that way. We don't know what the buyer will ultimately do with it; technically he could use it to wipe his butt if he wanted, and has every right to do so. "Air Raid" seems genuinely concerned about the preservation and documentation of the game. If it was mine, I would go the extra mile and buy a brand new scanner just to document it (I actually happen to have a 10+ years old scanner that's in perfect working condition, but no Windows 7 drivers so I can't use it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The difference is that we're talking about a released game here. It's 20 of a kind, or 50 of a kind, or whatever number of Air Raids were made. If the buyer decides to sit on the instructions (if they exist), then undoubtedly, in time, another copy of those instructions will surface. I can't believe that all 20 or however many people threw out their instruction booklets. A proto is different. That dusty box in a warehouse somewhere in Texas might well contain the ONLY copy ever made of an early work in progress, or that rusty old car in a junkyard might really contain the last surviving cart of a completely playable prototype. There aren't any more after that, so no one else is gonna produce that same prototype if the owner of a one of a kind item decides to hoard it. I'm not gonna say it's right or wrong not to release that kinda stuff. There's pros and cons to both releasing and hanging on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari2600Lives Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Incredible find . I'm one of the lucky collectors who have this game ( but no box) . Good luck in the auction. Has there been any talk about independent verification of the authenticity ? It looks 99.9% spot on but just thinking it might benefit the auction etc. Edited October 23, 2012 by Atari2600Lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Or he may just hoard it. A lot of high profile prototype owners like to sit on the game and refuse to dump it unless the community pays a ransom note on it. Plenty of NES prototypes have been lost to time that way. We don't know what the buyer will ultimately do with it; technically he could use it to wipe his butt if he wanted, and has every right to do so. "Air Raid" seems genuinely concerned about the preservation and documentation of the game. If it was mine, I would go the extra mile and buy a brand new scanner just to document it (I actually happen to have a 10+ years old scanner that's in perfect working condition, but no Windows 7 drivers so I can't use it). They may or may not hoard it. I'm just curious if it would have an effect on the price if that was left up to the buyer. Would someone pay more for a document that they or anyone else hasn't seen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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