+therealbountybob Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks for posting carlsson Tables updated (above). I must get a game of MULE in soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thanks! It looks like my Leggite score is listed twice in the first table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Will fix that! We had a good game tonight with trbb a Humanoid and bluecat as Leggite. It was a 3 way contest with the new incetive of not screwing over the competition for the good of the colony, but still trying to win affecting my play at times luckily bluecat mad a serious error and let a load of crystite spoil costing her the game (about 2000); it was really close in the end. I had a steady go where I didn't have a single food plot the entire game but was lucky on one turn when the homeworld relatives came in good with some much needed provisions (thanks guys) trbb (humanoid) 29,229 bluecat (leggite) 29,143 mechtron (mechtron!) 26,855 mechtron (also mechtron!) 21,186 Total: 106,413 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 In last nights game bluecat had her first go as humanoid so it was a tough colony; we met the minimun standards! Green Mechtron was leading until turn 11, then I had the lead for the first time only to lose a plot It was very close in the end: trbb (Humanoid) 20,441bluecat (Humanoid) 20,309Mechtron Green 18,060 Mechtron Blue 15,549 Total 74,359 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 At the end of the 11th round, violet Humanoid (me) had a 660 pts lead over blue Mechtron. Despite a rather low crystite value of $76, it was enough for him to surpass me and win by a margin of 459 pts. Carlsson (Humanoid): 28051 pts Colony Total: 102652 pts Do you record any other stats during the game? I tend to write down stuff like this, both to keep track of how commodities shift in value, calculate the risk of another pirate ship and for fun: Rn Land Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order 1 680S Planetquake 43 --- 15 10 RC GC BC VH 2 618S Meteorite Strike 43 92 20 12 RC GC BC VH 3 558U Sunspot Activity 43 88 23 10 RC BC VH GC 4 447S Pirate Ship 57 --- 15 17 RC BC VH GC 5 703S, 643U Crazy Mule RC 50 88 34 10 VH RC BC GC 6 585S Crazy Mule RC 57 104 76 10 VH BC RC GC 7 ---- Planetquake 50 100 60 10 VH BC GC RC 8 1209S, 1389S Acid Rain Storm 50 100 40 20 VH BC RC GC 9 1701S Pest Attack VH 57 144 15 59 VH BC RC GC 10 ---- Pest Attack BC 50 124 46 114 VH BC RC GC 11 ---- Acid Rain Storm 36 112 50 85 VH BC RC GC 12 ---- Transport Ship 50 76 72 89 BC VH RC GC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Happy M.U.L.E. Year in a little while! Will this highscore club carry over to 2014? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Happy M.U.L.E. Year in a little while! Will this highscore club carry over to 2014? Happy M.U.L.E. Year to you too. Yes let's roll this contest over to infinity (and beyond) JOIN IN FOLKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmoko Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Last 10 years of M.U.L.E. scores from pictures I've taken after games. Let me know what you think. - Delmoko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmoko Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Date Orange GoBlue GollOrange SpOrange LeGreen SphPink SpheBlue PackPink BonzPink LeggGreen LegBlue LeggBlue MechPink MechGreen MecBlue BonzOrange PaColony ToFirst Fou MISC. INFO09/09/2001 27580 21314 10975 15265 75134 Delmoko25/01/2004 7424 15904 10272 24730 58330 Spencer30/01/2004 24995 25243 13301 18113 81677 Zonz07/02/2004 24457 19056 17788 21807 83108 Delmoko07/02/2004 31248 29857 18001 16759 95865 Delmoko07/02/2004 25215 22953 17438 21252 86858 Delmoko07/02/2004 25218 22953 17438 21282 86858 Delmoko12/02/2004 28992 23956 18251 18129 89322 Delmoko Spencer vs Delmoko14/02/2004 22022 22326 21832 18918 85098 Zonz06/03/2004 24748 21617 19172 13400 78937 Delmoko23/04/2004 24757 20528 14624 18116 78025 Delmoko30/04/2004 24095 27853 28886 26486 107320 Spencer16/05/2004 26540 32608 20029 15434 94611 Zonz Blue Leggite20/07/2004 18889 23017 18949 8941 69796 Zonz Blue Leggite20/07/2004 17009 28756 26307 21908 93980 Zonz20/07/2004 26221 24050 23265 20534 94070 Delmoko30/03/2005 22030 19507 24541 19444 85522 Lafuda30/03/2005 18254 24311 19400 22707 84681 Zonz30/03/2005 20116 15312 9168 9016 51809 Delmoko Blue Bonzoid? Richie?09/05/2005 22728 23152 19286 19674 82916 Zonz12/06/2005 22202 26645 24631 10928 84404 Zonz25/06/2005 18285 29027 19797 21720 88830 Zonz07/07/2005 16279 16146 12879 26786 72089 ???? Blue Mechtron Won?10/09/2005 20245 20897 21136 23652 85930 ???? Blue Mechtron Won?27/02/2006 31301 30895 16335 17075 95606 Delmoko27/02/2006 21041 25341 21716 10358 78456 Zonz Pink Leggite27/02/2006 22889 30937 21315 24429 99570 Zonz27/02/2006 21646 11867 13385 16845 63743 Delmoko27/02/2006 30121 29180 18354 19096 96751 Delmoko27/02/2006 27668 30544 22927 18692 99848 Zonz27/02/2006 28141 28085 17183 16631 90040 Delmoko27/02/2006 32469 34487 17040 20236 104232 Zonz23/04/2006 56627 66798 18017 29845 171287 Zonz23/04/2006 56159 76931 30401 20309 183800 Zonz23/04/2006 22717 24070 13306 15437 75530 Zonz23/04/2006 18075 20504 24412 19833 82824 Lafuda23/04/2006 32269 36053 16076 16319 100717 Zonz23/04/2006 16019 23359 18664 22105 80147 Zonz16/07/2006 26289 32194 19941 26359 104783 Zonz Blue Leggite16/07/2006 39559 33079 12379 15325 100352 Delmoko01/12/2007 36166 16231 22470 15828 90693 Delmoko05/12/2007 24621 23899 19130 9491 77141 Delmoko08/03/2009 29550 32137 26245 22767 110699 Zonz27/08/2010 30776 28764 21782 22346 103588 Delmoko04/09/2010 30640 27015 26726 17620 102001 Delmoko05/09/2010 27840 15568 15725 33637 93060 Delmoko Orange Packer, Green Leggite17/09/2010 30816 29621 16118 18473 95028 Delmoko08/10/2010 30383 32828 17366 18768 99345 Zonz09/09/2011 27580 21314 10976 15265 75134 Delmoko10/09/2011 28752 24833 15213 18984 87782 Delmoko11/09/2011 32695 28987 19602 13308 94592 Delmoko13/09/2011 26267 24764 23477 24724 99232 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player25/09/2011 17031 18180 18942 16895 71048 Zonz 2 ppl, 4 player25/09/2011 29734 14477 11077 20279 75567 Delmoko 1 player game -testing new character26/09/2011 26093 24413 24005 20603 95114 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player28/09/2011 13195 14676 11056 14304 53231 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player01/10/2011 30372 20883 27332 21784 100371 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player14/10/2011 29208 27602 16804 18550 92164 Delmoko07/01/2012 18684 23766 12936 24549 79935 Zonz 2 ppl, 4 player14/01/2012 17735 25755 23904 19475 86869 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player24/03/2012 22740 19867 18928 16849 78384 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player11/08/2012 22070 26497 21873 18958 89398 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player31/08/2012 29017 20742 17215 32358 99332 Zonz 2 ppl, 4 player07/09/2012 19975 23764 25971 17232 86942 Zonz 2 ppl, 4 player29/09/2012 23972 18345 17403 21765 81485 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player24/04/2013 20267 21431 20166 20019 81883 Delmoko 2 ppl, 4 player11/01/2014 20803 22735 17183 18323 78961 Zonz Commodore 6412/01/2014 22027 ` 15715 14695 73104 Delmoko Commodore 6416/01/2014 20423 24157 18681 16709 79970 Zonz Commodore 6416/01/2014 18940 20445 23726 15554 78665 COMPUTER Commodore 6418/01/2014 21136 27508 12013 16743 81402 Zonz Commodore 64 0 Pirate18/01/2014 19878 19502 16487 11669 67536 Delmoko Commodore 64 1 Pirate18/01/2014 33108 18629 15685 15471 82893 Delmoko Commodore 64 $10 bet$2000 mining mule on Delmoko round 1$10 bet*Energy worth $164 in round 12 $10 bet2 meteorite strikes, 2 pirates, 77 C$10 bet Edited January 21, 2014 by therealbountybob re-pasted text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Last 10 years of M.U.L.E. scores from pictures I've taken after games. Let me know what you think. - Delmoko Nice! I started this thread from Jan 2013 so I'll include ones from then onwards in the tables So I'm not the only one... I'm sure there are a few more active MULE players out there who we can round up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmoko Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Awesome... I finally put a spreadsheet together at work this past week. What is your email... I'll send it to you. I can't attach an excel file here. We just started playing the Commodore version. What a difference from the Atari version!!! After 10+ years, the computer (The Blue Mechtron) actually beat us! Unreal... You almost have to have 2 food plots in this version... and Energy and Food is seemingly worth more than Crystite most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 ... Do you record any other stats during the game? I tend to write down stuff like this, both to keep track of how commodities shift in value, calculate the risk of another pirate ship and for fun: Rn Land Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order 1 680S Planetquake 43 --- 15 10 RC GC BC VH 2 618S Meteorite Strike 43 92 20 12 RC GC BC VH ... Hi Carlsson - how did you get this table to post - with delimited text spacing? I've just re-posted Delmoko's scores I did an export to prn file from Excel but your table looks neat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wrapped preformatted plain text into a (CODE) segment, an old trick to get fixed formatting on various forums. I think Delmoko's data has a bit too many columns to format nicely as plain text, but you could always have a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 For that matter, did anyone of you try the IBM PC version yet? It was made available just the other year, and I read it has a 24 month mode which most probably would change the total figures at the end. Personally, I think it'd get a bit dull to live through another 12 rounds without expansion, just refining, planning and trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Delmoko & friends' scores that will be added to the table: Date Orange GoBlue GollOrange SpOrange LeGreen SphPink SpheBlue PackPink BonzPink LeggGreen LegBlue LeggBlue MechPink MechGreen MecBlue BonzOrange PaColony ToFirst Fou MISC. INFO 11/01/2014 20803 22735 17183 18323 78961 Zonz Commodore 64 12/01/2014 22027 ` 15715 14695 73104 Delmoko Commodore 64 16/01/2014 20423 24157 18681 16709 79970 Zonz Commodore 64 16/01/2014 18940 20445 23726 15554 78665 COMPUTER Commodore 64 18/01/2014 21136 27508 12013 16743 81402 Zonz Commodore 64 0 Pirate 18/01/2014 19878 19502 16487 11669 67536 Delmoko Commodore 64 1 Pirate 18/01/2014 33108 18629 15685 15471 82893 Delmoko Commodore 64 Thanks for this Carlsson.No I didn't try the PC version, I agree the game is nice with 12 months. Interesting that the C64 version may have different logic / be harder than the Atari version. I just wish the game had a bit more variety of Mechtron behaviour as they are pretty dumb!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I had a backup copy of the C64 version that at least on the machine I played it on, made the computer player move up and down by itself in a land auction with no other buyers. That is, it would move up to the minimum bid level, then move below it, back onto minimum bid, go below etc until the time was up and there was a 50% chance the computer would buy land for minimum bid, given that is was low enough to start with of course. When it comes to other seasoned players, they wouldn't let go of an affordable plot of land anyway so this bug would not be visible unless everyone but one computer were terribly strapped for cash. I might try to load the MSX version too, although I think it is not as faithful as the other versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wonder why they consciously changed the logic - perhaps unintentionally due to porting the code / each machine's idiosyncrasies - wonder what the release dates were - you'd think the latest relased version would have the best logic???! There's a project for you! Look forward to hearing about the other version. Happy MULEing everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 In my case, it could also have been a very tiny and unusual read error, bug or hardware problem that caused it to act that way. As for logic, I read the backstory on how the IBM PC version came to, and how the team got an Atari 800 disassembly and had to play the original game over and over to figure out the rules, like Ozark never had formalized any specs to implement towards, or perhaps they didn't want to disclose such specs to a 3rd party firm even if they were licensed to do a port. I know from other posts on AtariAge that in modern day, the game has been reverse engineered with specs, IIRC based on the Atari version with comments on how the others may differ. Interestingly, apart from Planet MULE there is this new, commissioned game M.U.L.E. Returns for iOS and soon to be Android. I'm not sure even that dev team had any specs to work from, or had to reverse engineer the original game again to implement most things as people remember them to work. They have tried to on purpose make rule changes, but the majority seems to want the old gameplay in its entirety. Perhaps it is as simple as the methodology to formalize a specification, implement and if required update the spec to match implementation, wasn't as common among all software developers 30 years ago as it should be today? That meaning they might not have had a pretty spec to submit to e.g. K-Byte who did the IBM PC version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Tonight I tried to be smart and play the beginner species Flapper. My intention was to beat the HSC record for this species but in practise everything soon took a turn for the worse. With three computer players not particularly interested in food, a fire in the store, a bit of bad planning and spoilage and that I only had one plot that soon got infested with pest, the market price for the few (none) bars of food available for trade skyrocketed. If it hadn't been for the fact that the green computer player got a gift from his home-world containing three bars of food, the colony probably would have starved to death somewhere round 6. Or at least, there would not have been any more development from then on, just acquiring lone plots of land. Of course I missed out on selling both food and later on smithore when the price was high, and in the end I didn't even win the game, being a mere 190 points behind. Carlsson (Flapper): 21116 pts Colony total: 71273 pts By the way, it looks like my score from December 27 (see above) hasn't been added to the high score lists? RD Land Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order -------------------------------------------------------------- 1 580S Sunspot 43 -- 15 10 BH RC GC VC 2 628S, 768S Pirate Ship 57 -- 15 17 GC BH RC VC 3 708U Planetquake 50 116 15 56 BH GC RC VC 4 574S Fire 43 68 15 41 BH GC RC VC 5 538S Pest BH 57 128 235 24 BH RC GC VC 6 ---- Crazy Mule BH 43 56 235 10 BH RC GC VC 7 678S Pest BH 50 116 234 15 BH GC RC VC 8 1302S Fire 116 56 184 46 GC BH RC VC 9 1274S Meteorite 50 112 141 28 BH GC RC VC 10 ---- Pest GC 50 60 73 13 GC BH RC VC 11 ---- Pirate Ship 43 -- 16 40 GC BH RC VC 12 ---- Transport Ship 43 68 15 63 GC BH RC VC Edited February 1, 2014 by carlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Just like the WOPR computer in WarGames, I return to playing this game over and over until I win it. Actually I thought a Flapper would be a walk in the park, but after two consecutive second places, I'm starting to think that the "beginner species" may have its own challenges. I dunno if it is worse production or something? I seem to get more time per round when playing this species, but it doesn't help much if you have nothing useful to do, perhaps get time for an extra round of assay or hunt the wumpus if you're into that. Carlsson (Flapper): 19893 pts Colony Total: 76368 pts This time I tried to play the "all-in" Crystite game. It didn't start off as well as I had hoped for, and the combination of buying up computer players' spare crystite bars just to see the friendly pirates show up the next round... didn't improve my position. We were three players very close to eachother at the end of the 11th round though, but a decent crystite price was what put the blue computer on top. RD Land Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 580RC Planetquake 57 -- 15 10 VH GC BC RC 2 600GC Acid Rain Storm 57 120 15 29 VH RC BC GC 3 --- Sunspot Activity 36 64 24 25 RC VH BC GC 4 540VH Planetquake 50 76 42 14 RC BC VH GC 5 672BC Pirate Ship 36 -- 101 43 RC GC BC VH 6 612U (W) Fire in store 50 92 95 45 RC BC GC VH 7 962RC, 902U Pest BC 57 84 47 39 RC BC GC VH 8 575VH (W) Meteorite BC 50 112 22 37 RC VH BC GC 9 1147BC, 1495BC Planetquake 43 48 15 21 VH RC GC BC 10 --- Acid Rain Storm 43 72 15 37 RC VH BC GC 11 --- Pest VH 50 84 15 55 RC BC VH GC 12 --- Transport Ship 43 92 24 69 BC VH RC GC Edited February 4, 2014 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I won the Flapper! Carlsson (Flapper): 30453 pts Colony Total: 86812 pts Rd Land Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 528RH Acid Rain Storm 64 112 15 10 RH BC GC VC 2 720GC Sunspot Activity 57 92 15 17 BC RH GC VC 3 660BC Fire 50 100 58 67 RH BC GC VC 4 ----- Pest Attack BC 57 56 78 104 RH BC VC GC 5 732BC, 836VC, 776U Planetquake 50 84 117 107 RH BC VC GC 6 1068RH Pest Attack BC 53 128 85 41 RH BC VC GC 7 ----- Meteorite Strike BC 43 112 60 10 RH BC GC VC 8 ----- Acid Rain Storm 64 124 25 15 RH BC GC VC 9 1280GC (last plot) Planetquake 43 116 15 ?? RH BC GC VC 10 ----- Acid Rain Storm 64 92 19 ?? RH BC GC VC 11 ----- ???? 50 64 15 32 RH BC GC VC 12 ----- Transport Ship 43 96 43 20 RH BC GC VC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 What is a better way to finish off a Friday evening than playing a round of M.U.L.E? This time it turned out to be a cut-throat session, with blue computer player for a long while about 2000 pts ahead of me. At the end, I tried every ugly trick I know from the book, ranging from denying him to buy any energy to wasting (!) the last two mules in the store right in front of his turn, just so he wouldn't be able to deploy his two unused plots with even more crystite. In a combination with some nice pirates and very bad planning from the computer - he purchased leftover smithore at such volumes that he suffered spoilage the next turn despite not having any own production, something I'd expect to see in a newbie player but not in the AI - I managed to squeeze the win after all. Not a superb score by any means, but a win is a win... Carlsson (Bonzoid): 26272 pts Colony Total: 92813 pts Rd Land auction Event Smit Crys Food Ener Order ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 756BC, 698U Meteorite strike 50 136 15 10 BC VC GC RH 2 ---- Pirate Ship 36 -- 15 10 VC GC RH BC 3 ---- Crazy Mule GC 36 124 15 10 RH BC VC GC 4 360RH Planetquake 57 72 34 10 BC RH VC GC 5 400RH Crazy Mule RH 141 56 100 49 GC BC RH VC 6 ---- Planetquake 67 112 93 175 BC RH GC VC 7 ---- Pest Attack RH 50 68 124 84 BC RH VC GC 8 1036GC, 1444BC Sunspot Activity 50 116 128 21 BC RH VC GC 9 ---- Acid Rain Storm 36 124 67 10 BC RH VC GC 10 ---- Acid Rain Storm 43 124 27 17 BC RH VC GC 11 ---- Pirate Ship 74 -- 15 41 BC RH VC GC 12 ---- Transport Ship 50 88 39 61 RH BC VC GC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 As blucat was away I had a very rare one player game of M.U.L.E. it was strange. Compared to two player (apart from not being quite as fun as you can't sing a chorus of "where's your mule gone!" when your opponent makes a mule scarperring blunder) there seemed to be less luck, good or bad. The game was tough from the off, I played as Packer (my favourite) and decided to go for Smithore as there were few 3 mountain plots, as ususal I didn't manage to captitalise on this and was short of food and money from the off! The Mechtrons did there usual incompetant acts of making Smithore and always selling it which doesn't help things. The pirates came on round 5 and there wasn't even an ounce of Crystite, not even a plot, HA! It was diffuicult to establish where the 3 high Crystite plots (ok I could have assayed the land) but I bagged one and luckily the one next to it was high too! A comfortable win in the end but a poor colonly only meeting the minimum standards [shame] there were a couple of fires but nothing major to report. In the end Food (and Energy?) were over $200 a unit!!! Trbb Packer 23,503 Colony 74,594 I'll update the scores in the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 My first try ended up becoming 2nd But I got 20847 points. Not that bad, playing as a human 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 another try. First founder and 30655 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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