PS4 Announced

[+remowilliams]

Remember that weird calendar date thing that left the system useless for a day?

 

Do I ever, it happened right in the middle of me being intensely involved in Heavy Rain. I was pissed.

[cimerians]

Not in my experience. on PC you can still play COD4 without hacks. Its because of dedicated servers and Moderators on the game prevent those hackers getting on and ruining peoples' fun. I've seen far more hackers on consoles, because the hackers know they people can do nothing about it.

 

I have had my PC for about 8 months and I havn't upgraded a part, except a new hard drive, 320gb wasn't nearly enough. I had that thing forever and just threw it in my build to save money.

 

I haven't upgraded anything for 3 years except for a harddrive for more space....and I still run Skyrim and Borderlands 2 better on my PC.

 

I've never had to patch any game at all unlike the 90's and at most run a game "as admin" from GOG.

 

Its a no brainer but everyone has there preference. I wont be investing a lot in consoles anymore.

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

I wonder how many people would believe me if I started a rumor that Sony was going to release system update 4.40 on January 1st, 2014 which bricks all PS3s and will force people to buy a PS4.

 

Only the stupid people.........so probably a lot.

[Atariboy]

Sometimes it's nice to just lay back in bed and play a game on a handheld. That's where most of my handheld time happens if I'm not playing something like the Game Boy Player.

 

Even if the tv isn't occupied by another use, that's a feature I'd use at least occasionally. Even though I have a tv I watch sometimes while in bed, I'd feel like I was driving a car from the back seat if I were to try actually playing a game in that situation.

 

If Remote Play is anything like what it was on the PS3 it'll be a non-feature. Sony artificially restricted which games could use that feature so no one used it.

 

I didn't watch the show, but my impressions from forums like this one is that system wide remote play was one of the things they were pushing the other night. So no more restrictions for games at least (I'm sure the media capabilities will likely be crippled or halfway at best).

Edited February 22, 2013 by Atariboy

[GroovyBee]

I'm surprised that its being called "PS4" given that in Japanese (and Chinese) culture the number 4 is associated with death.

[Atariboy]

I've seen that mentioned elsewhere and then people procede to follow it up by mentioning just Playstation 4 releases, including major ones like Gran Turismo 4, that carried that number in Japan. So it doesn't seem to be a deal breaker.

 

Incidently, I asked earlier if it was confirmed that Dual Shock 3's weren't supported. Sadly that indeed is the case.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122314-The-PS4-Wont-Support-DualShock-3-Controllers

Edited February 22, 2013 by Atariboy

[Atarifever]

I can't believe I got this far along before seeing what you were doing there Moycon. I thought you were being serious. Very good impression of a console wars douche. In future you should put that stuff in tags. I wouldn't have gotten it even now had you not gone so preposterous that time.

[toptenmaterial]

I'm surprised that its being called "PS4" given that in Japanese (and Chinese) culture the number 4 is associated with death.

 

That's right, I had forgotten about that! In one of the Castlevanias, defeating Death gives you 4,444 experience points or something like that.

 

Maybe they'll call it something different in Asia?

[Tr3vor]

Well, actually that's the thing. I've been thinking of selling PCs again but through eBay so have been checking out the competition.

 

The most common cheapo games system now seems to be Trinity based machines with maybe an additional GPU and 16gb. However, even that's an overkill.

 

My main machine is an AMD Athlon three-core. Benchmark-wise it's a little faster than an A6. It has an old 6600 video card and just ... get this ... 2gb of DDR2! It currently plays everything I throw at it without a hitch.

 

So why would I want to blow £300 on a console when that money could go on a cheap gaming PC to hook up to the TV?

 

The last computer before this one had a 6600 in it. It was definately time to upgrade, thing was from 2004 I think. It choked on everything, couldn't even run Just Cause 2, that game needed DX10.

[onlysublime]

I'm surprised that its being called "PS4" given that in Japanese (and Chinese) culture the number 4 is associated with death.

 

black is superstitiously bad as well. didn't affect the choice to make the PS2 or the PS3 black.

[Starscream]

I can't believe I got this far along before seeing what you were doing there Moycon. I thought you were being serious. Very good impression of a console wars douche. In future you should put that stuff in tags. I wouldn't have gotten it even now had you not gone so preposterous that time.

 

I told you a few pages back....

 

Play nice. This whole thread has had so much sarcasm and you seemed to have missed most of it.

[Atarifever]

I told you a few pages back....

You did indeed. I have no trouble acknowledging my limitations, and recognizing deadpan sarcasm online is one of them. I need more hints, as demonstrated by requiring Moycon go as far as he did with it before I even saw it.

[Starscream]

You did indeed. I have no trouble acknowledging my limitations, and recognizing deadpan sarcasm online is one of them. I need more hints, as demonstrated by requiring Moycon go as far as he did with it before I even saw it.

 

It's all good. You never were good at the sarcasm but it's nice seeing you active again.

[Atarifever]

It's all good. You never were good at the sarcasm but it's nice seeing you active again.

In real life I'm known for it. Online, yeah, not so much. I take things at face value in text and can't seem to help it.

[moycon]

I can't believe I got this far along before seeing what you were doing there Moycon. I thought you were being serious. Very good impression of a console wars douche. In future you should put that stuff in tags. I wouldn't have gotten it even now had you not gone so preposterous that time.

 

Yep re-read the whole thread, of course I wasn't being serious, I was playing the console wars douche to your console wars dumb ass. LOL

 

I'll put "Newfoundland" and "silly" in a tag now so in the future you'll be clued in. I've been saying for years someone needs to come up with a sarcastic emoticon!

 

Do I ever, it happened right in the middle of me being intensely involved in Heavy Rain. I was pissed.

 

Oh wow. It's funny but had that happened now, I probably wouldn't have noticed. I don't use the PS3 daily these days. When that was going on, it just so happened I was. That one really never bothered me. There are one or two things I hold against Sony in regards to the PS3, but that whole calendar bug wasn't one of them. I guess having a career in networking and dealing with vendors like Cisco, Juniper and Nortel, you get a thick skin when it comes to bugs.

 

That whole hacking thing though...yeah I won't be tying personal cards to my account any more, not on PS4, not on Xbox 720.

[Atarifever]

Yep re-read the whole thread, of course I wasn't being serious, I was playing the console wars douche to your console wars dumb ass. LOL

 

I'll put "Newfoundland" and "silly" in a tag now so in the future you'll be clued in. I've been saying for years someone needs to come up with a sarcastic emoticon!

 

 

 

Oh wow. It's funny but had that happened now, I probably wouldn't have noticed. I don't use the PS3 daily these days. When that was going on, it just so happened I was. That one really never bothered me. There are one or two things I hold against Sony in regards to the PS3, but that whole calendar bug wasn't one of them. I guess having a career in networking and dealing with vendors like Cisco, Juniper and Nortel, you get a thick skin when it comes to bugs.

 

That whole hacking thing though...yeah I won't be tying personal cards to my account any more, not on PS4, not on Xbox 720.

 

You can just put "Atarifever" in a tag and assume everyone else in Newfoundland is just fine. They're actually better than fine (living in the greatest place on Earth), but you can assume fine at least.

 

I never tie my personal credit cards to consoles or game companies. You can get everything with the prepaid console specific cards anyway with no money lost to ripoff fees (like with a prepaid mastercard). Unfortunately now I do almost all my gaming through Steam, and you can't get Steamcards here yet, so I have to lose something like $3 to buy prepaid credit cards. Still, beats having your personal information stolen. And I'd know, since I have a student loan in Canada.

[toptenmaterial]

Sony to unvail actual PS4 console at E3 this June. Included in the article is some more hardware info.

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20130223054335_Sony_to_Demonstrate_Actual_PlayStation_4_Game_Console_at_E3_Trade_Show.html

[onlysublime]

I feel like Sony is holding back a lot of info because they still have a lot of decisions to make and they need to see what Microsoft is going to do. That's why their timing was great. Release some info to get the rabbid fanbase excited but hold back on what might get people mad. Microsoft is going to dictate Sony's pricing and policies on things like anti-used games.

[Atariboy]

I imagine Sony is pretty well versed in what's going on over at Microsoft. Too many companies and too many individual's are involved for there to not be plenty of leak's within the industry keeping everyone abreast of what the other guy's are doing.

[onlysublime]

yeah, but leaks are managed intentionally and unintentionally. you never know if what is leaked is real or fake to mislead the competition. The only true source that Sony could glean information from is AMD. The same way that IBM's Xbox team shared information with the IBM's Playstation team since we have a similar scenario with AMD now being the middleman.

 

here's a funny article I read at Gamasutra. apparently Sony is including game developers in their press conference and in their advertising materials that are not yet on board for developing any PS4 content. Reminds me of what Atari did with the Lynx and the Jaguar:

 

http://www.gamasutra...hp#.USmSU2eWPW0

 

What wasn't very well publicized during the two-hour presentation was the role that indie developers will play in the PS4's launch. Some tidbits about indies being able to self-publish was thrown in at one point, but nothing hugely concrete was mentioned.

Following the show, however, a press release went out detailing the PS4 hardware and, perhaps more excitingly, a staggering list of all the third-party developers and publishers who are apparently on-board.

And notably, a good portion of this list is indie studios. There's big names like Minecraft developer Mojang, BIT.TRIP's Gaijin Games and Nintendo 3DS publisher Nicalis, while smaller yet mighty teams like Vlambeer, Spry Fox and Wayforward also feature.

 

But with so many studios listed, the real question is: how many are actually working on PS4 games, and which have simply expressed an interest, yet been added to bump the numbers up and make the reveal seem that little bit more impressive?

Many indie studios that we got in contact with told us that they weren't able to talk about their current PS4 development status, although we were able to squeeze details out of them here and there.

 

We didn't get off to a great start in our hunt for PS4 indies, as Mojang's Daniel Kaplan told us that he wasn't even aware that the Minecraft and Scrolls studio had been included in the release.

"That is more than I knew!" he laughed. "I mean we are talking with different people with Scrolls, but we havent decided anything yet."

 

Could it perhaps be the case that Sony has simply included a list of indies who are working on Sony platforms? "Maybe everyone will just be bumped up to PS4... I don't have a clue to be honest," he answered.

 

Super Crate Box's Vlambeer isn't currently developing for PS4 either, although developer Rami Ismail says that "we've discussed the idea a bit."

 

Skulls of the Shogun studio 17-Bit, on the other hand, does not have a PS4 dev kit as of yet, although that's not for lack of trying.

 

"I'm surprised we were on any sort of list!" says the studio's Jake Kazdai. "We've actually been licensed Nintendo and Sony developers for years, and are working on a new project but we haven't decided anything yet about where it will land, or if it will even hit a console. I am anxious to see a PS4 dev kit and have been chatting with them about that but nothing official at all yet."