krisjohn Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hey Lord of the Sprites, your pixel's on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hi all, Just so you all know that there is hope for the Grand Prize winner of actually getting a homebrew cartridge. Here's a screen shot of the current title screen for Gravity Ball, which I plan to have be my first Homebrew release. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maibock Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Throw-Back Games Apple Pie Adventures Mundane Games Antiquity Fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superomni Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 bob's atariworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 Also, I looked at the cartridges I listed as prizes, and found that the Infiltrate cartridge is not working. So I will come up with a replacement later today. Sorry about that. I should have checked it out before listing it as a prize. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorlaxnut Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 The main reason I want small is so it wouldn't be hard to produce on the screen. More characters means its harder for me to make the VCS display my name/logo. Would you like us to show a picture of what our name and logo ideas might look like on the title screen of the game? I have made a picture of your Gravity Ball screenshot with my logo idea on it and tried to make it look like what it would look like on the screen. If you would like us to do that, I will post the picture later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 Would you like us to show a picture of what our name and logo ideas might look like on the title screen of the game? I have made a picture of your Gravity Ball screenshot with my logo idea on it and tried to make it look like what it would look like on the screen. If you would like us to do that, I will post the picture later. Sounds great! Share what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorlaxnut Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Sounds great! Share what you have. O.K., I cut and pasted the "Gravity Ball" part of your picture and put it into a ".gif" picture, corrected the colors, and tried to make "DigiRETRO" look halfway decent. I just used the word "DigiRETRO" this time on the "©2003" line as an example. I'll try to make the logo a little bit better if I have time before the contest is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisjohn Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Would you like us to show a picture of what our name and logo ideas might look like on the title screen of the game? Nice idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisjohn Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Drat, I just found the post that said 1.19MHz was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisjohn Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Heh, "BvM Productions" looks like Bum Productions in low res. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted February 28, 2003 Author Share Posted February 28, 2003 Snorlaxnut and Krisjohn, Those are both great, but unfortunately both of them could not be displayed by an atari 2600 without resorting to flicker. If you want to draw a logo that a VCS can render, you need to follow these restrictions. 1. The horizontal resolution is 160 pixels. The screen image is drawn in a series of lines. Each line is refered to as a scanline. 2. On each scanline you have the playfield, 2 sprites, 2 missles, and the "ball" to draw with. a. The playfield covers the entire line. The playfield divides the line into 40 segments 4 pixels wide each. Each 4 pixel segment may be 1 of 2 colors. The 2 colors and which segments are each color can be changed every scanline. Look at the sunset in Barnstorming for a nice example of what playfield graphics alone can do. b. Each sprite is 8 pixels wide. Each sprite pixel can be 1,2,4,or 8 screen pixels wide. Sprites can be repeated on the same scanline using programming tricks. The most common trick is to weave 6 sprites together to make the illusion of a single big sprite 48 pixels across. The sprites in Fu Kung are good examples of this technique. Generating sprites larger than 48 pixels across is not a trivial task, and probably more work than I want to do. For an example combining Playfield and Sprite Graphics; look at the Activision logo in later games. I am pretty sure it uses Playfield graphics to make the Rainbow, and sprites to write the word Activision. Lastly, the missles and ball can be used to add vertical and angled lines to the logo. Just note that the Ball must match one of the 2 Playfield colors, and the missles must be the same color as the sprites. Kris, I like your VBI entry best so far of all your entries. So focus on that one if you want to make another on-screen logo attempt. Thanks for all the effort guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisjohn Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Oh, well, I'll post this one anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kripto Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Here are my submissions- Vintage Pixels RetroSphere Pixelated Sky And Retro-izzle! (Humorously in honor of Snoop Dogg) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisjohn Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Last one, then I have to get back to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Here's a RECAP of my previous posts so you can see all of my entries in one place: 1. YOTE Productions 2. COMPANY YOTE 3. CO.YOTE 4. Ropamund 5. R.P.M.- Retro Player's Media 6. Retro Frontier Games ( RF ) 7. The VINTAGE FRONTIER 8. VINTAGE FRONTIER GAMES 9. ePRoM 10. JANUS Games And a few new entries... 11. GRAVIDEO ( In honor of your 1st 2600 homebrew "Gravity Ball" ) 12. Vint Age( Atari Age, Data Age... ) 13. Home Age( an "homage" to the classic era ) 14. WERBEMOH ( mirror "HOMEBREW" ) And just for fun!... 15. Bobbie is Going Homebrew! (NOT a production of BIT CORP.) Good Luck with your final choices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorlaxnut Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 O.K. I read Robert M's last post and tried to figure out how to make my logo look better on the screen. I changed the screen colors so you can see how small my logo is. This is about as good I can get, drawing on my paint program. Seeing my 10+ entries in the QB label contest proves I can't draw good. I'll come back to the forum when the contest is over. Good luck to everybody in the contest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 1, 2003 Author Share Posted March 1, 2003 O.K. I read Robert M's last post and tried to figure out how to make my logo look better on the screen. I changed the screen colors so you can see how small my logo is. This is about as good I can get, drawing on my paint program. Seeing my 10+ entries in the QB label contest proves I can't draw good. I'll come back to the forum when the contest is over. Good luck to everybody in the contest! Thanks for putting in the extra effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 1, 2003 Author Share Posted March 1, 2003 Okay, its March 1st so the contest entry time is over. Thanks, to everyone who participated. There were 59! entries! I count the entries and their submitters as follows: Author => Name Atari Troll => Homegrown Atari Homebrews badbrad Bob Werks Benjam138 => OPERATION:Homebrew Benjam138 => OHB benny huddy => the Homebrew Ranch Bratwurst => Rob-bot Factory chrisbid => VCS Renaissance chrisbid => 6507 Cybergoth => Kazzandra Games Gateway to Aphsai => Yote Productions Gateway to Aphsai => Ropamund Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Player's Media Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => ePRoM Gateway to Aphsai => Janus Games Gateway to Aphsai => Company Yote Gateway to Aphsai => Co. Yote Gateway to Aphsai => Gravideo Gateway to Aphsai => Vint Age Gateway to Aphsai => Home Age Gateway to Aphsai => WERBEMOH Gateway to Aphsai => Bobbie is going Homebrew Happy Dude => Seki Happy Dude => Video Game Brewery inextremis staple => NOAH - New Original Atari Homebrews Invader_dag => Bob-Tastic Games joeybastard => RPM*Games kripto => Vintage Pixels kripto => Retrosphere kripto => Pixelated Sky kripto => Retro-izzle krisjohn => Baron von Mundschau Productions krisjohn => Rotate Right Games krisjohn => The Cyan Coyote Project krisjohn => VBI Homebrew krisjohn => YOTE Old-fashioned Television Entertainment. krisjohn => 1.19 MHz Industries liquid_sky => Eprom's to Go maibock => RPM-Redline Studios maibock => Throw-back Games maibock => Apple Pie Adventures maibock => Mundane Games maibock => Antiquity Fun mert => Zerz Entertainment Minty Fresh => Retro Reality MMF => Bounty Bob's Gaming Glory MMF => Bob's Gaming Glory MMF => Coyote Bob's Gaming Glory Paralistalon => Mundcart Paralistalon => Astrocode Paralistalon => Ghostparty Paralistalon => Lord of the Sprites sdstuff64 => Bobert the beaver _ game sku_u => SRA: Stella Resurrection Association Snorlaxnut => Digitretro Productions superomni => Bob's Atari Experience superomni => Bob's atari revival Workshop superomni => Bob's Atariworks Xot => Full Circle (FC) Gaming/Productions These are listed in alphabetical order according to submitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 1, 2003 Author Share Posted March 1, 2003 Thanks again for all the great entries. Now I must begin the difficult task of picking the winners. I have gone through the list once. The remaining entries after the first round of elimination are: Author => Name Benjam138 => OPERATION:Homebrew benny huddy => the Homebrew Ranch chrisbid => VCS Renaissance Gateway to Aphsai => Yote Productions Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Player's Media Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => Janus Games Gateway to Aphsai => Gravideo Gateway to Aphsai => Vint Age Gateway to Aphsai => Home Age Gateway to Aphsai => WERBEMOH Happy Dude => Seki Happy Dude => Video Game Brewery joeybastard => RPM*Games kripto => Vintage Pixels kripto => Retrosphere kripto => Pixelated Sky krisjohn => Rotate Right Games krisjohn => VBI Homebrew maibock => RPM-Redline Studios maibock => Antiquity Fun mert => Zerz Entertainment Minty Fresh => Retro Reality Congratulations to everyone who has survived my finicky tastes so far. Now I will need to study the names more before the next cut. Thanks for your patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 7. The VINTAGE FRONTIER 8. VINTAGE FRONTIER GAMES Did you forget these? OR did you decide to eliminate both of these right at first? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 1, 2003 Author Share Posted March 1, 2003 7. The VINTAGE FRONTIER 8. VINTAGE FRONTIER GAMES Did you forget these? OR did you decide to eliminate both of these right at first? Just wondering. Ack! Missed those! Sorry about that. Thanks for catching my mistake. I like "Retro Frontier Games" better than those 2, so they are out at any rate. Sorry. Thanks again for catching my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorlaxnut Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Thanks again for all the great entries. Now I must begin the difficult task of picking the winners. I have gone through the list once. The remaining entries after the first round of elimination are: Author => Name Benjam138 => OPERATION:Homebrew benny huddy => the Homebrew Ranch chrisbid => VCS Renaissance Gateway to Aphsai => Yote Productions Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Player's Media Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => Janus Games Gateway to Aphsai => Gravideo Gateway to Aphsai => Vint Age Gateway to Aphsai => Home Age Gateway to Aphsai => WERBEMOH Happy Dude => Seki Happy Dude => Video Game Brewery joeybastard => RPM*Games kripto => Vintage Pixels kripto => Retrosphere kripto => Pixelated Sky krisjohn => Rotate Right Games krisjohn => VBI Homebrew maibock => RPM-Redline Studios maibock => Antiquity Fun mert => Zerz Entertainment Minty Fresh => Retro Reality Well, that puts me out of the contest. Anyway, Gateway To Aphsai's first post in the contest said that there is a C64 game you created. If I can find it on the internet, is it all right to download it and play it on an emulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Well, that puts me out of the contest. Anyway, Gateway To Aphsai's first post in the contest said that there is a C64 game you created. If I can find it on the internet, is it all right to download it and play it on an emulator? Crap! I didn't mean to delete your entry in the first round of eliminations. That's what I get for doing it at 3 in the morning. Now I'm worried I deleted others by mistake too. I'm going to start over. Okay, so if I take the original 59 and add the two I missed from Gateway to Apshai I get 61 entries to the contest: Author => Name Atari Troll => Homegrown Atari Homebrews badbrad Bob Werks Benjam138 => OPERATION:Homebrew Benjam138 => OHB benny huddy => the Homebrew Ranch Bratwurst => Rob-bot Factory chrisbid => VCS Renaissance chrisbid => 6507 Cybergoth => Kazzandra Games Gateway to Aphsai => Yote Productions Gateway to Aphsai => Ropamund Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Player's Media Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => The Vintage Frontier Gateway to Aphsai => Vintage Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => ePRoM Gateway to Aphsai => Janus Games Gateway to Aphsai => Company Yote Gateway to Aphsai => Co. Yote Gateway to Aphsai => Gravideo Gateway to Aphsai => Vint Age Gateway to Aphsai => Home Age Gateway to Aphsai => WERBEMOH Gateway to Aphsai => Bobbie is going Homebrew Happy Dude => Seki Happy Dude => Video Game Brewery inextremis staple => NOAH - New Original Atari Homebrews Invader_dag => Bob-Tastic Games joeybastard => RPM*Games kripto => Vintage Pixels kripto => Retrosphere kripto => Pixelated Sky kripto => Retro-izzle krisjohn => Baron von Mundschau Productions krisjohn => Rotate Right Games krisjohn => The Cyan Coyote Project krisjohn => VBI Homebrew krisjohn => YOTE Old-fashioned Television Entertainment. krisjohn => 1.19 MHz Industries liquid_sky => Eprom's to Go maibock => RPM-Redline Studios maibock => Throw-back Games maibock => Apple Pie Adventures maibock => Mundane Games maibock => Antiquity Fun mert => Zerz Entertainment Minty Fresh => Retro Reality MMF => Bounty Bob's Gaming Glory MMF => Bob's Gaming Glory MMF => Coyote Bob's Gaming Glory Paralistalon => Mundcart Paralistalon => Astrocode Paralistalon => Ghostparty Paralistalon => Lord of the Sprites sdstuff64 => Bobert the beaver _ game sku_u => SRA: Stella Resurrection Association Snorlaxnut => Digitretro Productions superomni => Bob's Atari Experience superomni => Bob's atari revival Workshop superomni => Bob's Atariworks Xot => Full Circle (FC) Gaming/Productions Apologies people, I am a doofus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Okay, I see what I did now. When I cut and pasted my first list of remaining entries after the 1st cut, I failed to copy entries below "Minty Fresh" in my spread sheet. Here's the corrected first cut: Author => Name Benjam138 => OPERATION:Homebrew benny huddy => the Homebrew Ranch chrisbid => VCS Renaissance Gateway to Aphsai => Yote Productions Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Player's Media Gateway to Aphsai => Retro Frontier Games Gateway to Aphsai => Janus Games Gateway to Aphsai => Gravideo Gateway to Aphsai => Vint Age Gateway to Aphsai => Home Age Gateway to Aphsai => WERBEMOH Happy Dude => Seki Happy Dude => Video Game Brewery joeybastard => RPM*Games kripto => Vintage Pixels kripto => Retrosphere kripto => Pixelated Sky krisjohn => Rotate Right Games krisjohn => VBI Homebrew maibock => RPM-Redline Studios maibock => Antiquity Fun mert => Zerkz Entertainment <= (edit: spelling error corrected) Minty Fresh => Retro Reality MMF => Bob's Gaming Glory Paralistalon => Lord of the Sprites Snorlaxnut => Digitretro Productions superomni => Bob's Atariworks Xot => Full Circle (FC) Gaming/Productions Okay, that's the complete list of remaining entries after the first cut. I need to be more careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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