+wood_jl Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I would also be interested in 1 or 2, but would really want a shell/case of some kind. Perhaps there will be time to figure that stuff out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 i am interested in one THE!CART. Can an original Case used with drilling to put thecart in? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Can an original Case used with drilling to put thecart in? No. The PCB with the improved (smaller) layout is still too big for a regular case/shell. But the new shell now fits into the Atari800 so the lid can be closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 OK, we have decision on the shell now. The quality that we can deliver with bioberns own printer exceeds what can be obtained from commercial 3D printers for twice the price. Hence we'll print them ourselves and the price will be 15 EUR per shell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinDeepBlue Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 That's great news! =D You can still count me in for one, with shell please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hello Peter What's the functional difference between The!Cart and the Ultimate Cart? I own an Ultimate Cartridge and it seem to do all I need it to do, but I'm no expert. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What's the functional difference between The!Cart and the Ultimate Cart? I own an Ultimate Cartridge and it seem to do all I need it to do, but I'm no expert. Hi Mathy, a detailed comparison of the different storage solutions and their properties is available here: http://www.wudsn.com/index.php/productions-atari800/tools/thecart if you already own Robin's great cart and are satisfied with it, you probably won't need The!Cart. That does not mean you shouldn't buy it of course - it has such a cool menu system 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I personally prefer The!Cart. It is instantly starting bigger rom files (no loading). The menu of The!Cart is the best menu ever seen on a8 and it supports ATR loading (limited but cool enough to be functional for some games I love to play like Johnys Trouble and Cropky). Definitely a must have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Shell: 3D Print model offered for free to print it yourself. We offer printed shells as shown below also for 15 EUR. The PCB does not fit into standard Atari shells! Do you happen to know what material/process is being used to print those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Do you happen to know what material/process is being used to print those? We use the "Bernhard in his basement with the Felix DIY Printer he got as a present for his last birthday" process :-). As it turns out 3d printing is a handcraft and you get better as you practice. Here you see first iterations evolving left to right: And this is how it looks today. Honestly I have not seen a comparable result from any other print option. They right temperature and speed even yields shiny sides. And it's a perfect fit for the PCB. Important: Esp. for XL computer I highly recommend a shell (own print or ours) because the metal lid of the cartridge port can kill the PCB (short circuit). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrbrevin Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wow it looks top quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Hello! If I remember correctly, there was also a mentioning of 3D printed shells for the older The!Carts on the ABBUC JHV. Are these available yet? Edited November 3, 2017 by Thorsten Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Hello! If I remember correctly, there was also a mentioning of 3D printed shells for the older The!Carts on the ABBUC JHV. Are these available yet? Yes, you can get them independent of the V2 run. Just PM biobern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Got your e-mail, I'm in for one with shell, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 FYI: I'm busy currently and replies to the huge amount of PMs regarding the run will take some time. Thanks for your understanding. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Finally caught up with all open requests. We have about 15 pieces left for the first run. So send you wife the link to this thread in case she is still unsure about what your X-mas wishes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Finally caught up with all open requests. We have about 15 pieces left for the first run. So send you wife the link to this thread in case she is still unsure about what your X-mas wishes Does "open request" mean anyone who e-mailed and asked to be put on the list? Because I did that over a year ago, and never received any notice recently or ever. I just found out about it right here and now! So please let me know how I can avoid being overlooked again if you make more of them. What does 15 pieces left mean? First run? Version 1? Or 2? Cases or actual Cart? Edited December 3, 2017 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Does "open request" mean anyone who e-mailed and asked to be put on the list? Because I did that over a year ago, and never received any notice recently or ever. I just found out about it right here and now! So please let me know how I can avoid being overlooked again if you make more of them. What does 15 pieces left mean? First run? Version 1? Or 2? Cases or actual Cart? I went through the thread in November and contacted the people who replied in the thread in the course of time since V2 was announced and mega-hz recently sent a mail to all that he had collected via mail in parallel. We have 15 V2 boards available in the run that is planned for end of December. Optionally plus V2 shell (highly recommended). See post http://atariage.com/forums/topic/215811-thecart-new-128mb-flash-cartridge/?p=3874619 Shells for V1 can also be provided on request. Please just PM as described in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) I went through the thread in November and contacted the people who replied in the thread in the course of time since V2 was announced and mega-hz recently sent a mail to all that he had collected via mail in parallel. We have 15 V2 boards available in the run that is planned for end of December. Optionally plus V2 shell (highly recommended). See post http://atariage.com/forums/topic/215811-thecart-new-128mb-flash-cartridge/?p=3874619 Shells for V1 can also be provided on request. Please just PM as described in the post. Then mega-hz didn't contact everyone. But thanks, I've been waiting since summer '16 for an email, I thought I was covered, so I wasn't checking in on the thread. Unless of course an email through the link at the bottom of THECART! website was not the proper way, even though the site says it is... Edited December 3, 2017 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FULS Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 more ordered and paid for. Anxious to receive after New Years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Status Update. Looks like it turns out as planned. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Update: We've had lot of trouble due to not fully backward compatible flash & EEPROM chips on the PCB. And we found the issues out only after everything are produced. Meanwhile we've found proper replacements and Wolfram is soldering and testing. Current results show 100% compatibility with the original, so we keep our fingers crossed. We prefer to have a single version of The!Cart that is tested and works with existing software and workbooks. And we personally pay the new chips, to make it available as you actually ordered it. Pitty the stuff is SMD, since nobody will buy the unused but already soldered once stuff with is actually worth a fortune. Donations via my web site are welcome... Later today or tomorrow I'll meet with Biobern to finalize the 3D model for the 1st shell print with the final PCB. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Update: We've had lot of trouble due to not fully backward compatible flash & EEPROM chips on the PCB. And we found the issues out only after everything are produced. Meanwhile we've found proper replacements and Wolfram is soldering and testing. Current results show 100% compatibility with the original, so we keep our fingers crossed. We prefer to have a single version of The!Cart that is tested and works with existing software and workbooks. And we personally pay the new chips, to make it available as you actually ordered it. Pitty the stuff is SMD, since nobody will buy the unused but already soldered once stuff with is actually worth a fortune. Donations via my web site are welcome... Later today or tomorrow I'll meet with Biobern to finalize the 3D model for the 1st shell print with the final PCB. Please tell me what the extra cost per cart is, and I will pay you instantly. This is part of hobby, and you guys try to make something fabulous for us, and I absolutely appreciate that A LOT. I do not want that you have to pay for my hobby. This is not a business you are running, but you are doing an atari-community service. So please tell me what extra money 1 cart costs. I ordered three, so you'll get 3x that money. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hi Marius, it's 7 EUR per Flash. I know for many of you the price of The!Cart is major expense and you cannot afford additional payments. That is perfectly OK. The fault was fully on our side (to not have 1 piece shipped before the full run) and I book it as "increase in experience", hoping the final result is as it should be. The good thing is that it seems that we will be able to later order smaller runs (10-20 pcs) again. Best regards, Peter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KlasO Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Hi Peter, I paypal’ed €20 to Wolfram to chip in for the added component cost. PayPal will probably take a percentage of that, but I hope you get most of it. Kind regards, Klas 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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