AtariBrian Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Todd I pmed you about some stuff . Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2904983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte Knight Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Todd I pmed you about some stuff . Got it - thanks for the bug reports! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte Knight Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Here's a preview of the Cement Pies Level: Edited January 14, 2014 by Byte Knight 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Don't know why, Arcade version seems to have the superior gameplay but I much prefer the audio on the VCS version. Is it possible maybe iesposta collaborate with VCS and "borrow" his audio routines? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Don't know why, Arcade version seems to have the superior gameplay but I much prefer the audio on the VCS version. Is it possible maybe iesposta collaborate with VCS and "borrow" his audio routines?Is it opposite day? I really didn't know how to answer.D.K. VCS has sprites and gameplay copied from the arcade game, exactly. DK Arcade 2600 has "player = player + 1 and skip some frames'" with one, two, one, two, "Wreck-It-Ralph 8-bit" 2-frame (or reflect) animation, and "cartoon physics" like changing direction mid-jump so thank you for liking our gameplay. As far as sound, I created a walking and growl sound that I'm quite proud of. The jump sounds are the same notes, the L4 win tune is the same notes, the kill sound is 4 2-channel notes (also the same) I dropped the spinning and spin sound, How high music is similar, I believe D.K. VCS uses lower harmony, the opening theme is better on D.K. VCS - I dropped ours to one channel, and it might get scrapped entirely to get Level 3 in, the L1, L2, & L4 ditties are simple 6 or 4 note repeats, the hammer tune should be the same, the jump over sound is the only thing that may be off, but a higher "top note" sounds way off. What sounds better in D.K. VCS exactly, or is it an overall impression? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 January 15, 2014. Note: I have "added on" to Byte Knight's code, so things like the opening animation, squares to the left of score showing remaining lives, breaking hearts may have to eventually go to get Level 3 in there. Added Custom Score Font. Opening animation and growl. Player color and How High message tweak to look best on CRT. Level 2 pie/cement factory done. No difficulty increases yet. Levels 1&4 very forgiving collision detection. Level 2 - don't touch anything you are not supposed to touch! Note 2: After Level 4 is doesn't go back to Level 1, sorry... Binary in first Post #1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte Knight Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Don't know why, Arcade version seems to have the superior gameplay but I much prefer the audio on the VCS version. Is it possible maybe iesposta collaborate with VCS and "borrow" his audio routines? I think that iesposta has done an amazing job with the sounds - far, far better than anything that I could have ever come up with. There's some limitations with batari basic, the biggest being that we only get 26 variables to work with. We're already using 5 of those for sound... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 First I'm seeing or even knowing about this port of DK...Very impressive work so far! Thanks for sharing it. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Transitioning between horizontal and vertical movement is much better in this version. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2906785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 This is really coming along very nicely! Great job! 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2907071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Atarius Maximus Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I just wanted to say that you guys are doing fantastic work. Love it, great job! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2907096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Binary in the first post plays levels 1, 2, 4 and then properly goes back to level 1. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2909728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Aww, no more source? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2909760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Aww, no more source?Eventually.Now that Byte Knight is programming the game logic, he basically started over with my sounds and sprites and layout. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2909769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Binary in the first post plays levels 1, 2, 4 and then properly goes back to level 1. So, it skips the elevator stage just like certain other vesions skip the cement stage. Can't wait for the final version, LOL! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2909799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 So, it skips the elevator stage just like certain other vesions skip the cement stage. Can't wait for the final version, LOL! Soon 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2909889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybot67 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Wow! all I can say is that this is amazing! Keep up the great work. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2911566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightytodd Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Soon Wow, that looks great. Even without the elevator stage it is already a great achievement. Well done! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2911748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte Knight Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Preview of the Elevator Level! Sorry, I cut Pauline's head off... 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2912528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 After I saw this I wanted to give +10 like!!!! unfortunately I could put only one. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2912532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wow, at this point you've really gone beyond what I thought someone could do with Batari Basic. It's flickery, yes (I'd think the phosphor effect would help, but maybe off-screen video capture programs can't handle that?) but just having that asymmetrical playfield with all those players is pretty nifty. Nice work. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2912717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wow, at this point you've really gone beyond what I thought someone could do with Batari Basic. It's flickery, yes (I'd think the phosphor effect would help, but maybe off-screen video capture programs can't handle that?) but just having that asymmetrical playfield with all those players is pretty nifty. Nice work.Thanks raindog.I like that the player you control does not flicker (player0). That means everything else is the other player (player1)! And when two player1's are less than 7 lines close or in the same horizontal space, intelligent flicker will happen. The great thing about assembly is you could program player0 to reduce flicker even more by not having "everything else" player1. That is why assembly programs like SpiceWare's Frantic and Space Rocks will always be nicer. Sadly, batari Basic doesn't reuse player0. We just decided to go with "flickerfest" because playing the game is still lots of fun. Edit: P.S. It does look much better on a CRT or in Stella. The capture program does make the flickering worse. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2912815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm wondering if a two color playfield (red girders and blue ladders, 30Hz) would be workable or palatable here. VCS DK does have more colorful sprites but at this stage the enemy AI and overall level design in Arcade are far superior. LadyBug used 30Hz playfield flicker and it was barely noticable if played on a CRT. And I know I'm nitpicking here but if there is any way to "borrow" the sound routines from DK VCS, it would add much to the experience. The bass effects in DK Arcade sound very hollow compared to the full notes of DK VCS. I know that port was done in assembly but it should be possible to duplicate the sound effects? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2913055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What an amazing job! So very excited about this!!! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2913069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I haven't seen this until just now - fantastic work! I wouldn't have expected anything like this from a batari Basic game. I'd seen DK VCS, but thought there were far too many compromises made to achieve its look. But DK Arcade manages to retain the gameplay (which is the most important thing) to such a degree that I suck equally bad at this as I do the arcade game. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/216037-dk-arcade-2600-new-4-level-demo/page/4/#findComment-2913088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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