doctorclu Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Version 8 : Miner 2049er (Vol I) * Corrected the framing of the game field * Sped the opening music up just a little bit * Changed the sprite so the main character is seen torso up in the cannon rather than just the hat/helmet. Miner 2049er 08-Bob.bin Commercial release Bounty Bob for you traditionalists out there. Miner 2049er 08-Hob.bin Hack Awards Bounty Bob. Miner 2049er 08-Rob.bin Recent Bounty Bob with even more of a hat/helmet. Miner 2049er 08-Slob.bin Speaking of helmet a returning fan favorite of the earlier sprite hacks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 HEY ATARI !! If you want to use the Miner 2049er hack we have going on for updates to the Atari50 collection and have this... I'd be honored and you'd have a better game. Just say'in! But thanks for including Miner 2049er and Bounty Bob Strikes Back for the Atari computer. That is just amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) On 11/18/2022 at 4:20 AM, doctorclu said: HEY ATARI !! If you want to use the Miner 2049er hack we have going on for updates to the Atari50 collection and have this... I'd be honored and you'd have a better game. Just say'in! But thanks for including Miner 2049er and Bounty Bob Strikes Back for the Atari computer. That is just amazing. doctorclu loved your version. It is without a doubt better than the original and much easier to play. I'm now making a new hack based on your version, which I think is much faster and fun to play. It is in the process of being finalized and will be released soon here on the 2600 forum hack. This is definitely one of the hardest games to hack when it comes to getting good results on Bob's sprites, the main character. I opted for a stick character like Pitfall Harry. Edited November 27, 2022 by alfredtdk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 A few more changes, I think we can get close to the good old man of the boxes and labels of the 2600. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 hours ago, alfredtdk said: doctorclu loved your version. It is without a doubt better than the original and much easier to play. I'm now making a new hack based on your version, which I think is much faster and fun to play. It is in the process of being finalized and will be released soon here on the 2600 forum hack. This is definitely one of the hardest games to hack when it comes to getting good results on Bob's sprites, the main character. I opted for a stick character like Pitfall Harry. Wow looking good. Can't wait to try it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Miner 2049er - Old Man (NTSC) Tell me if it's good. I tried to get as close as possible to the beautiful arts. I also opted for brown mines and white stairs. With poetic license when Bob is hurled from the cannon and misses, we only see his hat return. I tried to make this a bit more comical. A stickman version is also available. Miner 2049er - Old Man.bin Miner 2049er - Stickman.bin Edited November 27, 2022 by alfredtdk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, alfredtdk said: Tell me if it's good. I tried to get as close as possible to the beautiful arts. I also opted for brown mines and white stairs. With poetic license when Bob is hurled from the cannon and misses, we only see his hat return. I tried to make this a bit more comical. A stickman version is also available. Miner 2049er - Old Man.bin 8 kB · 0 downloads Miner 2049er - Stickman.bin 8 kB · 0 downloads Are these NTSC versions only? If so you could make someone really happy making a PAL (60) version as I really love this game 🤗 Edited November 27, 2022 by Bomberman94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 59 minutes ago, Bomberman94 said: Are these NTSC versions only? If so you could make someone really happy making a PAL (60) version as I really love this game 🤗 I'm adapting, I think that soon I can release a PAL version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Miner 2049er - Old Man (PAL) The PAL version is ready. It took a while because the colors in the conversion follow the NTSC standard and it was necessary to follow the PAL standard for a good result. Hope everyone likes it. Miner 2049er - Old Man (PAL).bin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Miner 2049er - FV Old Man (NTSC) Final Version (FV) This Bob version has its reentry upside down as originally conceived. Miner 2049er - FV Old Man.bin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Miner 2049er - FV Old Man (PAL) Final Version (FV) This Bob version has its reentry upside down as originally conceived. Miner 2049er - FV Old Man (PAL).bin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Trying it out, game flows along pretty good. Being a fan of Miner 2049er on the Atari 800 I miss the jump sound, and the splat sound. That is the first thing I noticed. Otherwise pretty fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Is the source code for any of these hacks in this thread available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 4:02 AM, alfredtdk said: Miner 2049er - FV Old Man (PAL) Final Version (FV) This Bob version has its reentry upside down as originally conceived. Miner 2049er - FV Old Man (PAL).bin 8 kB · 5 downloads Man Looks a Bit „strange“ - it seems that he has a kind of beak. Colors (I compared with German package - and yes I know real game looks different) should be dark red platform and brownish ladders. Please explain when man should be upside down - when he falls down and dies, he doesn’t flip upside down 🤔 Here‘s a picture of real Atari and CRT: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Mmmh checked again - platforms are more like red (a bit brown) and ladders light orange or so? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: Man Looks a Bit „strange“ - it seems that he has a kind of beak. The *beak* is actually his bushy beard. lol. It was the best I could do. Colors (I compared with German package - and yes I know real game looks different) should be dark red platform and brownish ladders. The platform colors originally on the 2600 are purple, I took the liberty of choosing a color that approximates the real mines, the clay brown, but I can release a version in this pattern if you want.Please explain when man should be upside down - when he falls down and dies, he doesn’t flip upside down You will only fall head over heels in the third stage if you make the mistake of taking too much weight in the cannon. When thrown by the cannon with the extra weights you will automatically go into the stratosphere and return to the ground upside down. 🤔 4 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: Here‘s a picture of real Atari and CRT: Nice.👍 4 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 😂sorry about the bushy beard - now I see it with other eyes (I believe you it is difficult within the existing capabilities!). Yes, it would be wonderful to have the colors like on the (Atari 2600) package (your choice of colors are nice, too 🤗). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: 😂sorry about the bushy beard - now I see it with other eyes (I believe you it is difficult within the existing capabilities!). Yes, it would be wonderful to have the colors like on the (Atari 2600) package (your choice of colors are nice, too 🤗). You are absolutely right, it is common sometimes not to recognize Atari sprites because of their limitations. I myself did not recognize things in childhood and that I only learned to recognize after adulting, for example, in the game Q'bert I strongly believed that the serpent was actually a bouncing cadaverous head, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Miner 2049er - OC Old Man (NTSC / PAL) OC (Original Colors) Partially brought the colors of the original version. Miner 2049er - OC Old Man.bin Miner 2049er - OC Old Man (PAL).bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 9 hours ago, alfredtdk said: Miner 2049er - OC Old Man (NTSC / PAL) OC (Original Colors) Partially brought the colors of the original version. Miner 2049er - OC Old Man.bin 8 kB · 3 downloads Miner 2049er - OC Old Man (PAL).bin 8 kB · 3 downloads I can confirm that it works fine ☺️ Two general ideas: - the score at the top is not very good readable (it’s good to change from the very bold/simple style from the original but maybe you could make it a bit more readable?) - after speeding up the man, could you make the counter faster because the time limit is too easy now And: maybe the „FV old man“ could have the colors of the package - maybe as intended from the „photos“? I think red(ish) platforms and light orange ladders might be really nice. I like your color changed version but e.g. the white ladders could profit from a bit more „colorful“ tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 16 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: I can confirm that it works fine ☺️ Two general ideas: - the score at the top is not very good readable (it’s good to change from the very bold/simple style from the original but maybe you could make it a bit more readable?) - after speeding up the man, could you make the counter faster because the time limit is too easy now Done. Changed numeric font and now more readable on screen. As for the fastest counter I think we would need some help from Thomas Jentzsch who analyzed the source code, it was thanks to Thomas who made Bounty Bob's acceleration possible. 16 hours ago, Bomberman94 said: And: maybe the „FV old man“ could have the colors of the package - maybe as intended from the „photos“? I think red(ish) platforms and light orange ladders might be really nice. I like your color changed version but e.g. the white ladders could profit from a bit more „colorful“ tone. Done. As a new feature, the platforms now kind of glow multicolored whenever Bounty Bob touches them. I hope it is more similar to what appears on the packaging of the time. NTSC and PAL versions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Miner 2049er - LED Old Man (NTSC / PAL) Numerical font reduced and now more visible on the screen. Reddish platforms and orange stairs. Platforms now glow multicolored whenever Bounty Bob touches their surface, similar to LEDs. Flasher. Miner 2049er - LED Old Man.bin Miner 2049er - LED Old Man (PAL).bin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Looking good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, alfredtdk said: As for the fastest counter I think we would need some help from Thomas Jentzsch who analyzed the source code, it was thanks to Thomas who made Bounty Bob's acceleration possible. Making the timer run faster would be quite tricky (the code is really bad). But it is easy to change its initial value to 888, 777 and so on. The initial number can be found at offset $1bbf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredtdk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Miner 2049er - Reduced Time (NTSC / PAL) There was no acceleration, instead the timer now has its time reduced by half. It is possible to finish all three levels in that time. Now it's pure adrenaline. Thanks Thomas. Miner 2049er - Reduced Time.bin Miner 2049er - Reduced Time (PAL).bin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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