StephenJ Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bill, Any idea on an ETA? Thanks, StephenJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bill, Any idea on an ETA? Thanks, StephenJ Not yet. The Intellivision Flashback is further along than the ColecoVision Flashback, but I think they'll be released around the same time (as well as the Atari Flashback 5 and the new Sega stuff). Typically their time-to-market for new stuff is September to get entrenched for the holidays. I don't think that's unrealistic for these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Rev Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Side comment, how did you become a "play tester"? :-) Also, any surprises for Atari Flashback 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Side comment, how did you become a "play tester"? :-) Also, any surprises for Atari Flashback 5? I was introduced to them as a potential product reviewer for the Flashback 3, which eventually turned into a form of overall consulting. No surprises with the Flashback 5, unfortunately, save for the fact it will have the most games ever in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bill, any chance of this INTV Flashback having Intelivoice games or is that too much memory/too big for what they are doing? Any estimates on retail price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bill, any chance of this INTV Flashback having Intelivoice games or is that too much memory/too big for what they are doing? Any estimates on retail price? I haven't seen the final list, but I do believe the Intellivoice games will be included. Retail price will be the same as other Flashbacks, which I believe retail for $60, though you often see them in stores for $35+ depending upon what sale you catch. I've really shared the extent of my knowledge on these products at this point. I've seen the design mockups and know what the targets are, but otherwise have no final info because it's all still kind of a moving target. They'll need to wrap it up soon, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Nice!! Might be fun. Hopefully real games and not reworked Nintendo based games like in the 13 in one controller, or whatever it was a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojotv67 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 With CGE in September this year I wonder if either the Intellivision or Colecovision Flashback might be presented there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Nice!! Might be fun. Hopefully real games and not reworked Nintendo based games like in the 13 in one controller, or whatever it was a few years back. No, this is the "real" (emulated) thing. AtGames has their own hardware platforms that they use (and have used) for all of their products. With that said, the only one that replicates the real hardware as far as I know is their Sega Genesis stuff, and even that is going to be switched to soft emulation for a few of the new products. Hopefully the days of NES-on-a-chip products are long since passed us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I thought Carl Mueller, Jr. had built a really good Intellivision emulator that could run on the NES, or was it that it ran on a Game Boy? Or are NES and Game Boy almost the same thing? Bah, these modern consoles! I can't keep them all straight! Clearly that must not have been what was used previously for the 25-in-1 etc. Anyhow, this new product is really exciting! If any <ahem> additional testers are necessary... (I bet nobody else is asking about that! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Games For Your Intellivision Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I thought Carl Mueller, Jr. had built a really good Intellivision emulator that could run on the NES, or was it that it ran on a Game Boy? Or are NES and Game Boy almost the same thing? Bah, these modern consoles! I can't keep them all straight! Clearly that must not have been what was used previously for the 25-in-1 etc. Anyhow, this new product is really exciting! If any <ahem> additional testers are necessary... (I bet nobody else is asking about that! ) Both. He wrote a very good Intellivision emulator that ran on a Gameboy Color, and he wrote an Intellivision emulator that ran on an NES, with the idea to get it into the 'plug and play' units that IP was selling. They were both separate products that Intellivision Productions took a pass on. I can play Beauty and the Beast on my Gameboy Advance and Color using it. Unfortunately, they didn't bite on either, and in fact, at a CGE a number of years ago, Keith and Dave W. looked at me like I had three heads when I told them that Carl was going to write an NES Intellivision emulator. Also, the emulation requires some scrolling to fit a full Intellivision playfield on the screen, but it works, and at full speed with many games. It would have been a great product. The Intellivision Flashback isn't using NES on a chip as far as i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkcharmer Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It's funny that, despite the fact that we have all the games and the CC3 and most Intellivision consoles, I'm still REALLY looking forward to this coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Is that NES Intellivision emulator available anywhere to download? Sounds like it would be fun to mess around with. Wonder what Intellivision Productions was thinking when they didn't take him up on this. Edited March 23, 2014 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Is that NES Intellivision emulator available anywhere to download? Sounds like it would be fun to mess around with. Wonder what Intellivision Productions was thinking when they didn't take him up on this. As with the GBC version, there's no money in it for them. Not worth it if 100 or 150 people are going to buy it. As for downloading the NES emulator, Carl's GBC version I believe made use of a custom designed cart and cart reader. If his NES one did the same, then you couldn't simply drop it on an Everdrive or Powerpak and play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'd be curious how good the NOC Intellivison emulator actually was considering how poorly the NOC performed when simulating the Atari 2600 and 7800 on the first Atari Flashback. In any case, as far as I know, using NOC's as the foundation for commercial products has gone away in deference to more powerful chipsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Games For Your Intellivision Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It works perfectly under NES emulation. The Game Boy Color emulator also works perfectly, and it is untrue that it required any special hardware. It was put on a 'BUNG' cart for demo purposes, and sent to Intellivision Productions. (Two of them) At CGE, I requested, and got them back, from Intellivision Productions in 2007 I believe, and kept one and sent one to Carl. I had it with me at CGE 2012 and showed it to a few people. Check out this video linked below: This is a graphic illustration of how Intellivision for Gameboy Color dynamically builds and modifies its background palette to accommodate new writes to the background table. It also updates the video RAM with new patterns, and sometimes the same pattern is duplicated several times, if it needs to be displayed in several different color combinations. This is a technique Carl invented back in 2000-2001 which is one part of the "magic" that allows an 8-bit system like the GameBoy Color to emulate a system as sophisticated as the Intellivision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtGOl699fS8 You can see a bit of the Game Boy Color Intellivision playing Burgertime in this video....he got a few of his facts, wrong, such as Carl living in Canada (He doesn't, he lives in Japan). At any rate, you can see it working full speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WoD-4jsGyg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Games For Your Intellivision Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Carl demonstrating Astrosmash! on the NES. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hjtfeezAH8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 This will be great no matter what! I love the sound of how the controllers will be. I certainly hope it sells well enough so that a second version with the Homebrew games can be released as well. Awesome stuff!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It works perfectly under NES emulation. The Game Boy Color emulator also works perfectly, and it is untrue that it required any special hardware. It was put on a 'BUNG' cart for demo purposes, and sent to Intellivision Productions. (Two of them) At CGE, I requested, and got them back, from Intellivision Productions in 2007 I believe, and kept one and sent one to Carl. I had it with me at CGE 2012 and showed it to a few people. All well and good, but if it's not publicly available, I really don't care much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Intv emulator on NES!!?? Holy smoke! I WANT THIS!!!!! This's really sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I'd love to take the NES emulator for a spin. Emulating a favorite classic system on another classic system intrigues me so I'd love to check it out just for the novelty value more than anything. I'm sure Carl would want to respect Intellivision Production's copyrights, but it would be neat to see just the emulator be released with the games stripped out so we could load up our own selection and toss it onto a Powerpak or Everdrive to check it out. Or perhaps the option to buy his Donkey Kong inspired homebrew for the Intellivision on cartridge but for the NES instead (Isn't Carl Mueller the programmer of that or am I getting names mixed up?). Edited March 24, 2014 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmode-ky Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Wonder what Intellivision Productions was thinking when they didn't take him up on this. This is just conjecture on my part, but maybe they wanted to but couldn't. The firm that produced the NOAC Intellivision plug-n-play systems was Techno Source, but the actual coding and manufacturing were done by a company in China. Maybe they only wanted an all-in-one, software + hardware deal, rather than a) having to work with someone else's code that might have issues with their NOAC and b) having to take a smaller payout. Just a wild guess, though. onmode-ky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ArcadeJunkie Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I might pick it up just to have it as a second intv system for the other tv.... but I have to agree that if they added a cartridge slot, it would be like people shopping for cabbage patch dolls back in the early 80s... Too bad the retron systems dont have an all-in-one unit for Atari/collect/intv.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd love to take the NES emulator for a spin. Emulating a favorite classic system on another classic system intrigues me so I'd love to check it out just for the novelty value more than anything. I'm sure Carl would want to respect Intellivision Production's copyrights, but it would be neat to see just the emulator be released with the games stripped out so we could load up our own selection and toss it onto a Powerpak or Everdrive to check it out. Or perhaps the option to buy his Donkey Kong inspired homebrew for the Intellivision on cartridge but for the NES instead (Isn't Carl Mueller the programmer of that or am I getting names mixed up?). Yes same guy that did DK Arcade and DK Junior Arcade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 He did a Donkey Kong Jr. homebrew, too? I only knew of DK Arcade and D2K Arcade. I'm surprised he bothered with DK Jr. since Coleco's effort was just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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