+save2600 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Anyone happen to have a spare they'd be willing to part with? In addition, were there any 3rd party Mini Memory books, or just general TMS9900 Assembly books and guides? Would be interested in getting something along those lines too... Edited January 7, 2014 by save2600 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I may have a spare Minimem Manual around here somewhere. I'll look this weekend. A lot of the assembly books touch on the MiniMemory. Here's one that is specific to it (if you can find a copy and if you understand German): TMS 9900 Assembler Handbuch für das Mini Memory Rainer Bernert 1983 German 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2900470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Compute!'s Intro to Assembly mainly focuses on the Mini-Memory: http://pergrem.com/tibooks/compute/computes-beginners-guide-to-assembly-language-on-the-ti994a.zip 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2900481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airernie Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Anyone happen to have a spare they'd be willing to part with? In addition, were there any 3rd party Mini Memory books, or just general TMS9900 Assembly books and guides? Would be interested in getting something along those lines too... There are several assembly language books that deal with MIni Memory on TI-99/4A Home Comptuer Book Archvie, The variety is why I suggest pointing to the home page rather than linking to a specific book. Ernie 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2900510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 As mentioned by RoberLM78, Compute's Intro to assembly is a good book and well set out for mini memory usage. Unless you just want a TI Mini Memory manual for collecting/completion purposes-I would not even bother with it, as it is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and constantly tells you to refer to the Editor/Assembler manual under the assumption that anyone who owns Mini Memory obviously must own Editor/Assembler. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2903934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 As mentioned by RoberLM78, Compute's Intro to assembly is a good book and well set out for mini memory usage. Unless you just want a TI Mini Memory manual for collecting/completion purposes-I would not even bother with it, as it is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and constantly tells you to refer to the Editor/Assembler manual under the assumption that anyone who owns Mini Memory obviously must own Editor/Assembler. Ehhhh, I recall a number of references to E/A, but it is plenty enough to start programming. I did on a small scale with my own ML programs based around nothing more than the details in the book (text mode, the DISPLAY@ routine, and interacting with TI BASIC variables,) and Eric LaFortune did on a much larger scale having produced "Rock Runner" on nothing more than a Mini Memory and the Line-by-Line Assembler. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2904012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, mostly after one since I have nothing assembly wise and want it to go with my MiniMemory cart. .pdf's of this stuff are great also, but I'll always prefer to have the real thing to flip through. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2904016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Ehhhh, I recall a number of references to E/A, but it is plenty enough to start programming. I did on a small scale with my own ML programs based around nothing more than the details in the book (text mode, the DISPLAY@ routine, and interacting with TI BASIC variables,) and Eric LaFortune did on a much larger scale having produced "Rock Runner" on nothing more than a Mini Memory and the Line-by-Line Assembler. I'm not saying that Mini Memory was poor-I am making the point that Mini Memory's practical application was as a relatively cheap introduction to assembly compared to E/A which required PEB,32k and a disk drive which was financially out of reach for a lot of people when first released. Yet check the introductory text in the MM Manual and it actually states "it is assumed that you are experienced in TMS9900 assembly language", Why would they assume such a thing?, given TI's record of "Assumptions" is it any wonder they pulled the plug on the home computer division? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2904077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm not saying that Mini Memory was poor-I am making the point that Mini Memory's practical application was as a relatively cheap introduction to assembly compared to E/A which required PEB,32k and a disk drive which was financially out of reach for a lot of people when first released. Yet check the introductory text in the MM Manual and it actually states "it is assumed that you are experienced in TMS9900 assembly language", Why would they assume such a thing?, given TI's record of "Assumptions" is it any wonder they pulled the plug on the home computer division? I've always thought most things were well-documented, with good examples, like the Beginner's BASIC book. What I think was really missing were good examples when it came to assembly, and for them to have assumed that someone had knowledge of assembly was a silly thing to do for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2904086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm not saying that Mini Memory was poor-I am making the point that Mini Memory's practical application was as a relatively cheap introduction to assembly compared to E/A which required PEB,32k and a disk drive which was financially out of reach for a lot of people when first released. Yet check the introductory text in the MM Manual and it actually states "it is assumed that you are experienced in TMS9900 assembly language", Why would they assume such a thing?, given TI's record of "Assumptions" is it any wonder they pulled the plug on the home computer division? Yeah, I will give you that. As a "mini" environment for those without the E/A, it does appear to assume something a tad unrealistic. I used the Mini Memory and its manual to learn TMS-9900, having no practical but only passive (reading in a magazine) contact with assembly language before. I then used that experience to go to Z80 and 6502/6510. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2904089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the tips fellas! In the meantime, I bought a Mini Memory CIB, so have the two manuals that come with it again. Still looking for a .wav of Minipede though... anyone?? Also... is there a repository of sorts with Mini Memory specific programs and games for download? Especially interested in stuff that could be used with the program recorder as I do not have a disk drive. Edited January 28, 2014 by save2600 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2915217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Anyone happen to have a spare they'd be willing to part with? In addition, were there any 3rd party Mini Memory books, or just general TMS9900 Assembly books and guides? Would be interested in getting something along those lines too... Until you get the real thing, I hope you can use the two attachments... ** EDIT ** Never mind.. I just saw you last post. I'll check through my .PDF's and see if there MIGHT be something you can use though.... Mini Memory - User Guide.pdf Mini Memory - Line by Line Assembler.pdf Edited January 28, 2014 by --- Ω --- 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220519-mini-memory-manual/#findComment-2915277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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