+atari2600land Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hi, newbie here. I have an 800XL. I was wondering how to make games for this competition. I probably won't get anything done this year, but maybe next year, as I need to learn some more BASIC. I was just wondering what all I need to program BASIC for the Atari 8-bit (i.e. programs for my computer, et al.) Also, is there some way to get the programs already programmed on my 800XL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadix Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Hi, newbie here. I have an 800XL. I was wondering how to make games for this competition. I probably won't get anything done this year, but maybe next year, as I need to learn some more BASIC. I was just wondering what all I need to program BASIC for the Atari 8-bit (i.e. programs for my computer, et al.) Also, is there some way to get the programs already programmed on my 800XL? You can just flip on the computer to run basic, since the 800XL has it built in. You probably want something to save to, so you need a cassette recorder, disk drive, or a device such as SIO2PC. You don't want a cassette recorder because it is slow. Personally I use an SIO2PC. You can get one at http://www.atari8warez.com/buyDualUSB.html. They are currently out of stock. You connect one end to the SIO port on the Atari and the other end to a USB port on your PC. Your PC runs AspeQt, which allows you to mount disk images. That is how you get the programs from your computer to your 800XL. The SIO2PC also allows you to save from your Atari to your PC. Regardless of whether you choose the disk drive or the SIO2PC, you want to hook it up to the Atari before booting. You want to make sure the SIO2PC has a DOS or Disk Operating System in D1. Atari Dos 2.5 is popular. Once you booted, you can type DOS and press return to get to the DOS. List files by pressing A, then return, return. Press B to get back to basic. In Basic you can type SAVE "D1:FILE.BAS" to create a file named FILE.BAS with the contents of the current program. To load it later, run LOAD "D1:FILE.BAS". To learn Atari BASIC, read books. There are many available online, such as the ones at http://www.atariarchives.org/. There is also a programming section of the forum if you have questions. Edit: A major trick to getting your program in 10 lines: You can get multiple logical lines on a single physical line by using the : character to separate the lines. Like: 10 PRINT "HI":PRINT "EVERYONE" Edited February 26, 2014 by fadix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari8warez Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Personally I use an SIO2PC. You can get one at http://www.atari8warez.com/buyDualUSB.html. They are currently out of stock. FYI, I am in the process of ordering parts and the PCBs for a new design which is built inside an Atari SIO plug. The device should be available in about a month from now. I also plan to include some companion software to AspeQt. Edited February 26, 2014 by atari8warez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 16th game registered Jumpsheep by fdingler Paddleship by Bill Kendrick Sijmen by me Squirrel by fdingler Shmup by Bill Kendrick Colfusion by Irgendwer Planets by Bill Kendrick Slice by Bill Kendrick GozMind by gozar Carrera by Daniel Serpell Minijong by Bill Kendrick Jump! by Xuel Count1ing Zoo by 1NG Hanged Man by Jakub Husak Gwobby Micro by Jason Kendall Minidash by Bill Kendrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hi, newbie here. I have an 800XL. I was wondering how to make games for this competition. I probably won't get anything done this year, but maybe next year, as I need to learn some more BASIC. I was just wondering what all I need to program BASIC for the Atari 8-bit (i.e. programs for my computer, et al.) Also, is there some way to get the programs already programmed on my 800XL? That's Great You might be suprised what you can do within a couple of months... take a look at the Valentines Day thread too and post your own thread on the programming forum with questions as you go - there are plenty of people to help out. Some of the entries here are quite complex as they cram a lot in so you'd be better off looking at some of the books/manuals or magazine's getting started articles; checkout atariarchives.org or atarimania for these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Nah, i want it to be 100% me. But thanks for the offer! That's ok. I wasn't going to suggest any code/ideas but just ways of cramming more in using formulaes instead of IF THEN etc The gravity in this game is a bit like a Wile E. Coyote (Looney Tunes) cartoon, but it's the best I could do with time constraint (couple hours this evening) and space constraint (10 lines). Here's "Minidash", a Boulder Dash style game! Nice work on Minidash Bill Pretty amazing stuff being generated here, those Guys are going to have a great time at NOMAM All this Turbo BASICing has got me started on another game - might be one for the abbuc contest though I really should get back to the assembler for my main project soon... then there's bluecat and Travis's game to help with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yautja Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It'd be great to have all the games packed in one single (zipped) file to download...- Y - 16th game registered Jumpsheep by fdingler Paddleship by Bill Kendrick Sijmen by me Squirrel by fdingler Shmup by Bill Kendrick Colfusion by Irgendwer Planets by Bill Kendrick Slice by Bill Kendrick GozMind by gozar Carrera by Daniel Serpell Minijong by Bill Kendrick Jump! by Xuel Count1ing Zoo by 1NG Hanged Man by Jakub Husak Gwobby Micro by Jason Kendall Minidash by Bill Kendrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Sure, after the contest. Contest ends 26 April. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Besides download of ATR we are planning a tape release. A professionell produced Tape with Inlay, Cover and Shrinkwrap + Manual. Costs about EUR20. What do you think? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 18th game registered Jumpsheep by fdingler Paddleship by Bill Kendrick Sijmen by me Squirrel by fdingler Shmup by Bill Kendrick Colfusion by Irgendwer Planets by Bill Kendrick Slice by Bill Kendrick GozMind by gozar Carrera by Daniel Serpell Minijong by Bill Kendrick Jump! by Xuel Count1ing Zoo by 1NG Hanged Man by Jakub Husak Gwobby Micro by Jason Kendall Minidash by Bill Kendrick Puzzler 2014 by Sleepy Drunk Pistol by mgr inz. Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I want to remove GozMind since I've reworked it. The new game is called Crack My Luggage: I "borrowed" Bill K's character redefinition tricks, removed the confusing symbols, and wrote up some better directions. The atr is availble here http://cdn.gtia.com/2014/CrackMyLuggage.atr and more info is available on my website, http://gtia.com/2014/02/28/crack-my-luggage-turbobasic-xl-ten-liner/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 18th game registered Jumpsheep by fdingler Paddleship by Bill Kendrick Sijmen by me Squirrel by fdingler Shmup by Bill Kendrick Colfusion by Irgendwer Planets by Bill Kendrick Slice by Bill Kendrick GozMind by gozar Retracted Carrera by Daniel Serpell Minijong by Bill Kendrick Jump! by Xuel Count1ing Zoo by 1NG Hanged Man by Jakub Husak Gwobby Micro by Jason Kendall Minidash by Bill Kendrick Puzzler 2014 by Sleepy Drunk Pistol by mgr inz. Rafal Crack My Luggage by gozar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I want to remove GozMind since I've reworked it. The new game is called Crack My Luggage: Cool little game; Mastermind is an old favorite. Something's wrong here though. On the first try I have 2 in the right place and 1 the right digit in the wrong place. I changed only one number on the second try, and it gives 1 in the right place as a response. At a minimum the response should be 1 in the right place and 1 the right digit in the wrong place. Edited February 28, 2014 by MrFish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Cool little game; Mastermind is an old favorite. Something's wrong here though. On the first try I have 2 in the right place and 1 the right digit in the wrong place. I changed only one number on the second try, and it gives 1 in the right place as a response. At a minimum the response should be 1 in the right place and 1 the right digit in the wrong place. CML Error.png That is weird. Let me play with it tonight and see if I can re-produce it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Well, there is something definitely wrong. I just had a guess that had three solids and one white, which would be impossible. The solving routine must be getting confused, probably when there are multiples of the same number. I'll dig into it! My normal way I test is to just go up, use 0000 as my first guess, 1111 as my second, and so on. Apparently that works. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgr_inz_rafal Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 And here's a link to my game and screenshot. http://atarionline.pl/forum/?PostBackAction=Download&AttachmentID=4878 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ripdubski Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I'm finally down to 10 lines and some room to spare, well, it will likely get used fixing the premature end at the end of round 1 and missing animation. trace mode activate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenit Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) My entry is Turbo Basic XL roguelike in 10 lines Press Fire to start.To win you have to survive to level 8 of the dungeon.In the dungeon:@ - represents your character. Move using joystick.$ - gold - collect as much of it as you can.+ - healing potion restores 5 hit points? - magic scroll increases your maximum hit points (stronger scrolls appear deeper in the dungeon)/ - weapon to pick up. Stronger weapons can be found deeper in the dungeon, but be careful - you can replace your weapon with a weaker one.1-9 - monsters - number represents strength of the monster.- Monsters chase you.- Stronger monsters cause more damage. Monster 5 cause random damage 1 to 5.- You hit monster with random strength up to your weapon strength (with weapon 5 you cause randomly 1 to 5 damage)- Monsters steal items from the ground. roguelike.atr GAME.TXT Edited March 1, 2014 by ilmenit 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Besides download of ATR we are planning a tape release. A professionell produced Tape with Inlay, Cover and Shrinkwrap + Manual. Costs about EUR20. What do you think? AA User Powersoft is in the music business and has the equipment to produce tapes. Every entry would have a loading time of approximately 1,5 minutes. In the manual the authors could explain line by line how the program works. So it would become a small TB tutorial and textbook. Costs would be about 7 EUR for the tape + 7 EUR for the manual + shipping costs = ~20 EUR. But we would need ~30 Preorders to make it possible. We thought it would be a cool oldschool way of releasing stuff. But maybe we are wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgr_inz_rafal Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I am in for a tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Bitjunkie Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Well, i do not own a tape-recorder anymore. But if you put an additional 5.25 disk into that package, i am in Edited March 1, 2014 by 8Bitjunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hmmm, worth to think about... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Well, i do not own a tape-recorder anymore. But if you put an additional 5.25 disk into that package, i am in Disk would be cool, though I do have a working cassette player! Wouldn't you need to load Turbo BASIC anyway so wouldn't that be from disk? [i'm in either way] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Oh, yes, thank you for the hint Jason. First one has to load TB from Disk and then Cload the programs. Doesn't seem to be convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Besides download of ATR we are planning a tape release. A professionell produced Tape with Inlay, Cover and Shrinkwrap + Manual. Costs about EUR20. What do you think? A bunch of nifty BASIC games? On a cassette?? It's like I'm 10 again! That would be a total nostalgia overload for me..... count me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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