RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Welcome to the official 7800basic release thread! To download the latest version of 7800basic, visit the 7800basic github release page. Additional info may be found at the 7800basic page of the 7800 Development Wiki. Random Terrain has provided an online version of the 7800basic guide. Please report any issues, errors, etc., in this thread. If this language is going to be useful, bug-free, and a pleasure to use, it's going to be through shared collaboration. And most of all, lets use this language to make some new kick-ass games for our all too often overlooked platform. 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Cheers. I'll see about having a look a bit later on. Been wanting to do something on the 7800 for a long time, this might serve as a good stepping stone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Thanks. I'll try it tomorrow (after I get some sleep). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Just one tiny suggestion for page 20 regarding this:Hue $a is closer to a member of the "blue" family for both NTSC and PAL.It will start to appear more "green->blue" (low->high end) with a system having a higher phase shift (~26.7 degrees and greater).Hue $c would be the 'official' "green" (remains consistently that way despite a lower or higher phase shift) for NTSC, $d would probably be better for PAL (And would work for NTSC too in the example).The Level 1 forest for Bentley Bear utilizes $d (Bob, please correct if mistaken). Color charts showcasing phase shifs from 24.7 degrees thru 27.7 degrees can be found here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I woke to find this thread. Have been reading all morning. Great documentation. Tried compiling simple.bas just a moment ago. One thing that might throw someone off just starting is you used "_simple" for a folder name in one of the command lines but the actual folder is "simple", no underscore. Here comes the newbee questions: With the command line: 7800basic.sh simple.bas , I am getting the message "Command not found". I have 7800basic.sh in the same folder as simple.bas. Does it need to be in a different folder? Forgot to mention working in OS X. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I see this is going to be battle from the gate. Uggg!!! I just tried installing install_win.bat in Windows XP. I got a message: :FAILEDecho Setting the bas7800dir variable failed. This batch file requires SETX,echo which comes with WinXP SP2, Windows Vista, and later versions of Windows.echo.echo You should obtain a copy of SETX and re-run this script, or set theecho bas7800dir variable manually.echo.pause I updated windows XP with SP2, restarted windows, ran install_win.bat and got the exact same thing. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17802788/will-setx-command-work-in-windows-xp Download: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18546 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 I woke to find this thread. Have been reading all morning. Great documentation. Tried compiling simple.bas just a moment ago. One thing that might throw someone off just starting is you used "_simple" for a folder name in one of the command lines but the actual folder is "simple", no underscore. Thanks, I'll fix that for the next update! With the command line: 7800basic.sh simple.bas , I am getting the message "Command not found". I have 7800basic.sh in the same folder as simple.bas. Does it need to be in a different folder? 7800basic.sh shouldn't have to be in the same folder. Did you run "install_ux.sh" in the 7800basic folder? This sets up your PATH so you can run the script from anywhere. It's also worth mentioning that you need to open a new terminal window after running install_ux.sh". This tidbit is mentioned by install_ux.sh itself, but easy enough to miss. I just tried installing install_win.bat in Windows XP. My mistake. I got the bit about "setx" being delivered with XP SP2 from the net, but clearly it's not exactly right. Check out the answers in this thread for how to obtain it for XP. Or we can go over how to set the variables manually, if you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Just one tiny suggestion for page 20 regarding this[...] Excellent, and thank-you! I'll update it. I've been using the default MESS palette for my work, but it seems that might be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Great stuff! Thanks for doing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Thanks, I'll fix that for the next update! 7800basic.sh shouldn't have to be in the same folder. Did you run "install_ux.sh" in the 7800basic folder? This sets up your PATH so you can run the script from anywhere. It's also worth mentioning that you need to open a new terminal window after running install_ux.sh". This tidbit is mentioned by install_ux.sh itself, but easy enough to miss. My mistake. I got the bit about "setx" being delivered with XP SP2 from the net, but clearly it's not exactly right. Check out the answers in this thread for how to obtain it for XP. Or we can go over how to set the variables manually, if you prefer. I ran install_ux.sh in terminal. I just opened terminal and dragged the file install_ux.sh onto the terminal window. It gave me the message: Quote: __________________________The_7800basic_Unix_Installer_v1__________________________ This script will update your /Users/allan/.profile file to set the following variables each time you open a terminal window. export bas7800dir="/Users/allan" export PATH=$PATH:$bas7800dir You may run this script as many times as you like, and should do so if you're installing a new version of 7800basic, or if you relocate this basic directory. Hit [ENTER] to begin, or type Q and [ENTER] to quit. End Quote. I hit 'return' and it then gave me the message: Quote: /Users/allan/.profile has been updated successfully. To test the new setup... 1. open another terminal window. (the bas7800dir and PATH variables will now be active in any new terminal window) 2. type: cd "/Users/allan/samples/_simple" 3. type: 7800basic.sh simple.bas This should create a test.bas.bin binary file in the samples directory that will work on real hardware or under emulation. End Quote. I then opened a new Terminal window and typed: cd "/Users/allan/samples/_simple" hit 'return' and the typed: 7800basic.sh simple.bas and got the message: 'command not found' Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 From your new terminal windows, what are the results from... echo $PATH echo $bas7800dir I did test this in my OS X VM, but maybe there are environment or version differences between our OSes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hi RevEng great work........only Problem is,that i am only a Little hacker..... how can i learn this.......? greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 echo $PATH gives me: /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/Users/allan echo $bas7800dir Gives me: /Users/allan Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Allan, what shell are you using? Edited March 1, 2014 by danwinslow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Neat-O! Another BASIC compiler for my amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17802788/will-setx-command-work-in-windows-xp Download: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18546 Thanks, CPUWIZ. The top page is what I used to find the bottom page. I did what was said and XP said it was updated but I still got the same message when I ran install_win.bat for 7800Basic. Weird. Hopefully I can get 7800Basic to work with OS X Terminal. It's a little easier than having to switch over to Windows. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Allan, what shell are you using? Terminal in OS X 10.6.8. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Excellent, and thank-you! I'll update it. I've been using the default MESS palette for my work, but it seems that might be a bad idea. More recent versions of MESS, in the last year or so, should have a 'good' palette (~Versions 0.148-0.152). Anything earlier, may likely have some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC-42 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Hopefully I can get 7800Basic to work with OS X Terminal. I had success in the Terminal.app on OS X, Allan. I had to cd to the actual folder I'm storing 7800basic in at the moment. (In my case, ~/A7800 Development/7800basic/7800basic.0.1beta20140228/ which is sloppy, but hey. ) When I ran the install_ux.sh file after doing so, things just popped. Edited March 1, 2014 by MAC-42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I had success in the Terminal.app on OS X, Allan. I had to cd to the actual folder I'm storing 7800basic in at the moment. (In my case, ~/A7800 Development/7800basic/7800basic.0.1beta20140228/ which is sloppy, but hey. ) When I ran the install_ux.sh file after doing so, things just popped. For some reason it just doesn't see it or something. I have everything in the same folder but no go. I'll keep bagging away at this. I tried typing 'ls' in Terminal and I got a list of the files in the folder that Terminal is pointed to and it seems to be the correct folder. It contains all the 7800basic files including simple.bas and 7800basic.sh. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Allan, when you unzipped, did it create subdirectories like /doc and /samples, or did everything go in one spot? Judging from your variables it looks like the latter. Try unzipping with directories, if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hi could someone post the samples in a78 or bin so that i can check on real hardware? It will take a long time,till i get everything to work. I use Windows 7 on my PC Is there anybody,who could describe,how i must install everything? Thanx in advance Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hi Walter, Here are the two sample programs compiled. The first one is very basic, just so people can see an uncomplicated program. simple.bas.a78 adventurer.bas.a78 Installation on Windows 7 is pretty straightforward. It's covered in the last part of the Guide, but its just a matter of unzipping the zip file somewhere on your computer. (make sure to unzip with directory support). Then double-click the "install_win.bat" file. Actual usage is from the command-line, but that's also covered in the last part of the Guide too. In your earlier post you asked how you could learn this. My suggestion is to follow the guide instructions on how to compile the simple.bas example. Then read through the commands in the guide a bit. When you read something you want to try, modify simple.bas and try it out. If you run into problems as you learn, post in the forums. I'm glad to help, and the guys who know bB automatically know a good deal of the 7800basic syntax, so they can help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Allan, when you unzipped, did it create subdirectories like /doc and /samples, or did everything go in one spot? Judging from your variables it looks like the latter. Try unzipping with directories, if that's the case. Yes, it created subdirectories. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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