intvnut Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Cool, I was really suspecting it was a memory limitation. BTW, given what hardware video tricks you've already implemented, I'm wondering if you've yet tried recreating the double-resolution white-text overlay trick the TutorVision had. In other words, attempted to drive pin 14 (Ext Video) on the AY-3-8915 Color Processor Chip. I haven't tried anything with the Ext Video pin. Do you have any docs on what the TutorVision hardware actually did? I was under the impression that they merely decked it out with enough RAM to allow defining all 256 GRAM cards. You could then treat the whole display roughly as a 2-color bitmap, albeit at 160x96. Or, with the double-res mod, 160x192. The Keyboard Component is the only peripheral I know of that actually did white-text overlay; however, it didn't use the AY-3-8915 Ext Video input. I'm guessing it was originally intended to, but they probably couldn't get its CRTC closely enough sync'd with the STIC dotclock. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 more WIP of Montezuma's Revenge 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Great work! Edited March 18, 2014 by revolutionika Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) It reminds me a little of the long time coming Intv version of rick dynamite! the race is ON!!!!!! Edited March 18, 2014 by revolutionika Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Fantasic work, retroillucit Edited March 18, 2014 by AtariBuff Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I haven't tried anything with the Ext Video pin. Do you have any docs on what the TutorVision hardware actually did? I was under the impression that they merely decked it out with enough RAM to allow defining all 256 GRAM cards. You could then treat the whole display roughly as a 2-color bitmap, albeit at 160x96. Or, with the double-res mod, 160x192. The Keyboard Component is the only peripheral I know of that actually did white-text overlay; however, it didn't use the AY-3-8915 Ext Video input. I'm guessing it was originally intended to, but they probably couldn't get its CRTC closely enough sync'd with the STIC dotclock. I think I had cross-wired some items in my head. I mixed up the white-overlay text of the Keyboard Component with the extra video capabilities of the TutorVision. Looks this Wiki page discusses a bit of what we were talking about: http://wiki.intellivision.us/index.php?title=TMS9927_CRT_Controller&oldid=14909 Anyways, I've probably gone off-topic long enough on retroillucid's good graphics fun. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2950815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Why not ? 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) This one was tough to make using less than 64 cards You just can't have alot of details with the 57 cards limit ( 4 for Tarzan, 2 for the Gorilla, 1 for the Snake) Anyway, here it is , Tarzan GFx for Intv Edited March 18, 2014 by retroillucid 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Any games you guys want me to try? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Jumpman Jr. Wild Western Chopper Command Sea Quest Pitfall II Laser Blast Sky Jinks Barnstorming Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGC1612 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Anteater Nibbler Zoo Keeper Edited March 18, 2014 by VGC1612 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Why not ? Is this Cabbage Patch Kids or Garbage Pail Kids? Edited March 18, 2014 by revolutionika Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Is this Cabbage Patch Kids or Garbage Pail Kids? Isn't that Tarzan? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Is this Cabbage Patch Kids or Garbage Pail Kids? It is Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 It is Aaahhhh, I see. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_intv Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 What about a version of Turbo where it is EASY to steer? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Megaman. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Games For Your Intellivision Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I'd love to see a 'proper' version of Space Invaders Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'd love to see a 'proper' version of Space Invaders I could try that one! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I know J-F isn't a big fan of sleeping but I fear we may have him working 24/7 on graphics for the Inty. I told you guys he was a beast. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I know J-F isn't a big fan of sleeping but I fear we may have him working 24/7 on graphics for the Inty. I told you guys he was a beast. Yep, I'm an insomniac .... and I also LOVE making game graphics! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yep, I'm an insomniac .... and I also LOVE making game graphics! Very fortunate for us Inty fans. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yep, I'm an insomniac .... and I also LOVE making game graphics! Are you using that Elektronite tool? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Are you using that Elektronite tool? Not anymore I can make graphics just by using Paint As long as you know the Intv limitation, you can just take whatever paint program The Elektronite tool was good for me to learn how the Intv graphics works Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Not anymore I can make graphics just by using Paint As long as you know the Intv limitation, you can just take whatever paint program The Elektronite tool was good for me to learn how the Intv graphics works Like Microsoft Paint? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/223155-my-first-steps-into-making-intv-gfxs/page/3/#findComment-2951402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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