+FujiSkunk Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I imagine he was alluding to Lucas' habit of releasing updated versions of his movies. If so, then we should be thankful Retro is no George Lucas. Otherwise each new revision would be progressively worse. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yup. I got the six volume Star Wars boxed set on BluRay. Episide VI: During one of the most solemn moments in the whole saga, where Darth Vader watches his son die, he screaches out, "Nooooo..." right before dumping the Sith lord dowwn the pit. That voice sample came strait out of the final moments during Episode III when Anikan/Darth learns that princess Pademe is dead. IMO totally ruined the originally silent scene. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever for the addition. Darth's silent actions in the original Episode VI portray that message much more clearly than the cries of "Nooooo..." in the BluRay reissue. There's probably pleanty of other edits that I'm not enough of a movie buff to notice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karokoenig Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 [ /off-topic] 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumerNivek Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Marty and Curt, Thanks for the info! I have been away from the AtariAge scene for about 5 years and didn't know you had published the first book and the soon to come out second book. I also had no idea that you had Kickstarted the books, or I would have donated some change to the effort! Anyway, I was about to buy your first book, but now that you are editing to second edition, I will hold off until that comes out. Looking forward to reading both back to back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seethransom Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Sumer, I loved the first edition. I am sure the second will be outstanding. Facts, memos, letters. The second book looks like a joy. Though I've heard many stories, the book sorts out which were true. Most of them real, but this went into depth, giving the whole story. I think it is a good decision to wait for the revise. The info there about the Big Dig in NM. The before, during, and after of the event could make a whole book! They were about to do it in less pages, but expect it to still be very descriptive. Despite my grievance in this thread (which is minor). I hold the utmost faith in the authors to deliver. Mark Edited July 19, 2014 by Seethransom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just make sure the second edition is of equal size of the first and matches well next to the first edition when splined out on a bookshelf. Remember, your main customer is vintage game collectors and well, we are kind of weird at times *I can not buy this!! The Logos!! They are different heights!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sincity Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hope to see a ebook version coming out. I would like to read behind scenes of what the Tramiels were doing with Atari. I worked at Federated Group in SoCal in college when they bought us out and run as an outlet for Atari products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just checking, but the second book will be covering all facets of Atari during the Tramiel years, including the consumer divisions as well as coin-op and Tengen, correct? Really kind of a d!ck move all those wonderful Tengen NES ports that never saw the light of day on the 7800... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Just checking, but the second book will be covering all facets of Atari during the Tramiel years, including the consumer divisions as well as coin-op and Tengen, correct? Really kind of a d!ck move all those wonderful Tengen NES ports that never saw the light of day on the 7800... No. The second book covers one of the two companies Atari Inc. was split in to: Atari Corp. Tengen was under the other company Atari Games, which will be covered in the third book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E.R.O. Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Looking forward to the second book. Gotta get my Jack Tramiel boss from hell stories fix from somewhere since Brian Bagnall's second Commodore went vaporware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinglear Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Your first book was awesome. A huge amount of work, a testimony that will last in time. You are collecting & preserving history of videogaming. I can't wait to read the 2nd book (I was a big atari fan, got a ST, a Lynx, a Portfolio...) If you open a kickstarter to get some funds, I'll be happy to help you funding your work. I fail to understand some comments here, people who complain for some spelling mistakes or who'd like a free epub or whatever... seriously ? I think I read once that you plan next to work on Intellivision. You guys simply have perfect ideas ! There's nothing to dodge, I already explained why what you wanted isn't common and isn't going to happen. And the Lucas comment was just more oddity to me. But thanks for voicing your opinion, we appreciate everyone's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seethransom Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I made peace of the situation, and endorsed the book. Despite what I feel about the revision, the first edition is solid. Don't be a kiss ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seethransom Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I made peace of the situation, and endorsed the book. Despite what I feel about the revision, the first edition is solid. Don't be a kiss ass. That was uncalled for. I am sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 No. The second book covers one of the two companies Atari Inc. was split in to: Atari Corp. Tengen was under the other company Atari Games, which will be covered in the third book. So, Atari Corp, 7800 = 2nd book. Atari Games, Arcade, Tengen = 3rd book. Correct? I plan on eventually buying both FTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We have a limited run of posters (18 x 25, photo stock paper) of each cover signed by Curt and I ($12 each plus shipping). After these are out, because of logistics, they'll just be signed by me unless you catch us together at another show. The "I Helped Make Atari History" bumper stickers are also available ($1). Please make sure and choose the correct shipping option when checking out. One is for just bumper stickers, and the other is for posters (or combinations of posters and bumper stickers). http://ataribook.com/book/shop/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHart Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I just got my copy of Business is Fun recently and am about 1/4 through. The editing isn't nearly as bad as one might think given the reviews. The most glaring editing mistakes are quotation marks facing the wrong way. Anybody who uses modern word processors should know that the software will orient quotations marks that way it thinks it should, and it is sometimes right. (c.f. "Expert is merely man who make quick decision - and is sometimes right." - Charlie Chan) I plan to get Business is War too, but like the first book, it will be a while before I do, and for the same reason: budget. The next Atari related buy for me will have to be the Harmony cart, and then I'll get B. is W. when I re-up my funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4ngerM4n Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Any news on the release date of 'Business is War' and the 2nd edition of 'Business is Fun'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLynx Lover Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Same thoughts here. Any news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutha Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yep, same here. I'm very interested if/when the 2nd edition of Atari Inc will be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Any news on the release date of 'Business is War' and the 2nd edition of 'Business is Fun'? x2 Same thoughts here. Any news? x3 Yep, same here. I'm very interested if/when the 2nd edition of Atari Inc will be released. x4 Yes. Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Come on guys, the war is long overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E.R.O. Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Re-reading (again) Business is Fun & I can't help but laugh out loud every time how Al Alcorn slapped down Steve Jobs pilfering Al's engineers. I think I scared people in the IHOP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLynx Lover Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Any news on how Business is War is progressing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Bump. Hopefully Curt gets the ball rolling on the new book after he finishes a certian long overdue add-on project... Haven't heard from Marty recently either. Is he hard at work or hardly working? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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