ataridave Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'd love to own an Apple IIc, but Apple color monitors aren't cheap, and I wonder how composite out to a CRT TV looks. I haven't found any images on the internet, although I did find one website with screenshots of how bad it looks on the IIgs. But the IIc isn't as powerful. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Composite out should let you read 80-column text nicely. And that's good enough for color graphics too. If you take the composite output and convert it to RF/NTSC for TV, then 80-columns won't be readable. But you'll get some nice blending & artifacting for the colors though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The Apple II series computers all output standard composite and should work fine on any classic CRT or modern flat screen with composite input without issue. I know I use them without issue on a wide range of displays. As you state, the only Apple II computer with issues is a IIGS, but only in IIGS mode, since that has a special connector (you can still use the composite out for legacy II software). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 newataridave? Isn't this the third account you've had so far here? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) I have a couple of these monitors, ColorMonitor IIe/AppleColor Composite Monitor IIe . They are quite sharp, even at 80 columns... MarkO Edited October 6, 2014 by MarkO Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) depends on the TV, on my trinatron 80 column text is impossible, graphics are eh. on my 13 inch HDTV its quite good, which is the whole reason why I bought it, any other TV in the house was worthless in high res modes Edited October 6, 2014 by Osgeld Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I've experienced some CRT displays don't work well with the IIc. If I remember right, the C=1702 didn't look good. Also these Hitachi TV/Monitors I have. The text is unclear it just looks like very strong artifacting and you can only read it by turning the color knobs to almost no color. Other displays look just fine though, like the C=1902a I have is a perfect IIc composite monitor. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataridave Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 The Apple II series computers all output standard composite and should work fine on any classic CRT or modern flat screen with composite input without issue. I know I use them without issue on a wide range of displays. As you state, the only Apple II computer with issues is a IIGS, but only in IIGS mode, since that has a special connector (you can still use the composite out for legacy II software). Ok Bill, thanks for clearing that up for me on the IIgs! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataridave Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 newataridave? Isn't this the third account you've had so far here? Yep. Albert told me that he could merge my two previous accounts together. In told him to please do that, but I haven't heard back from him yet. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3086946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 You can also pick up a VGA adapter for the IIc from this guy in Japan: http://tulip-house.ddo.jp/DIGITAL/english.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/230505-do-you-need-a-monitor-for-an-apple-iic-or-can-you-use-a-tv/#findComment-3094698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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