Omega-TI Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 << This >> looks like it would work out quite well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why? I have to admit it would be a nifty addition, but I can hardly fathom a real need for this, except perhaps for those of us who spend most of their time in front of their real TI and need to charge their phone or other accessory while at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It's worth noting that simply providing 5v isn't enough for all USB devices to charge, though. There's a handshake protocol involved. I think it's enough for low power charging though...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why? I was thinking that it would be perfect to supply power to a WiFi bridge for the TI's Lantronix UDS-10. I could also put one of these on the back of the TI (hooked up to the now disconnected 110v fan leads) to run the UDS-10's power transformer.. I would then mount the UDS-10 on the back of the P-Box (behind the drive bay). All the cords would be neat & tidy behind the P-Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just be careful what you put on the other side of those power injectors. Most of the cheap injectors are "dumb," that is they do not comply with 802.3at or 802.3af, which are the standards for power-over-Ethernet. As a result, they can (and will) fry equipment on the other end. Now, if you have a pair consisting of an injector and separator, then the only thing you have to worry about is the power provided at the end. I am pretty sure our UDS-10s will run on anything from from 5V to 30V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 oh, cool, this USB-plug is waterproof... so, there won´t get any water outside te PEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 oh, cool, this USB-plug is waterproof... so, there won´t get any water outside te PEB I just picked that one for ease of installation and a nice professional look. I figured most people can drill a round hole and screw it in. Then all they would have to do is hack one end off of any USB cable, solder it in place and then plug it into the back side of the P-Box. If you don't care about looks, all you would need to do is go down to your local Dollar Tree, buy a $1.00 USB cable, drill a small hole in the back of the P-Box, feed the cord through, tie a knot in the cord, so it will not pull out of the box, and then solder it in place. That's about the cheapest upgrade/modernization ever for the TI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) yes, thats OK, of course. When I changed my fan in the PEB, stealing 12Volts from the powersupply, I also added a standard-HDD-connector (4pin 5V/12V) inside the PEB, for later use.... But I am not sure wether there is enough power on the PEBs supply to run a harddisk, so maybe I will never try (/EDIT and yes, this PEB is my special funfair-edition Edited February 19, 2015 by schmitzi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 In revisiting this USB power project, I think I found a cheaper and better alternative. I'll know in a few weeks as I ordered the cord yesterday. Anyway this one is a FLUSH MOUNT so it will look better in the TI, and already comes with the cord attached, so that's one less item to purchase as well. This project is going to be insanely easy to install as well... (when I finally get around to it). The only other component needed is a Molex Y-Adapter (shown below). Just hack off one of the male connectors and solder it to the end of the USB outlet cable that has been cut to the required length. As you can see from the diagrams below, it's simple... red to red and black to black. I think the hardest part of this project will be drilling the hole in the steel on the back of the P-Box. If you are interested in this project, you can order the outlet << HERE >>. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 You fon't even have to hack the Molex--just get a set of Molex pins to put onto the wire ends, put them into the appropriate Molex (male) or Molex (female), and now you have a removable cable. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budz2355 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Just use this as your surge protector and plug the bridge into it. You must have a surprotector for computer/monitor/pbox/external drive/etc ? Change it out for this and you don't need to worry about modding your PEBox. There are two USB plugs in the middle of this, but there are TONS of different styles of these as I am sure you are aware of. The only connection you need to make is the Ethernet cable from the UDS-10 to the wifi bridge, which can just get it's power from this thingo. Just trying to think outside the (PE)box............... (I can't be the first person to make that joke right?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 That is a nice idea too. . .the double-duty surge/USB power block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 yep, but switching the PEB on, with empowering i.e. the Vonets WLAN-Bridge same time, is also a cool thing maybe this way is quite more "sporTIve" - fiddling in the assets (does the UDS-10 also run with 5 Volts ? does the PEB´s powersupply work for all of that ?) Ralf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 You don't even have to hack the Molex--just get a set of Molex pins to put onto the wire ends, put them into the appropriate Molex (male) or Molex (female), and now you have a removable cable. . . Great idea there, thanks. It's also been suggested privately that I get an automotive USB charger and tap the 12v line instead, due to the power supplies lack of regulation inside the P-Box. I'm ashamed to admit it, but for some reason I had always ASSUMED the TI's power supply was regulated, even though I knew all the individual cards have built in regulators. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Just use this as your surge protector and plug the bridge into it. Nice idea, but I have a nice Belkin surge protector that I'd rather not replace right now. In my present configuration, it's not feasible to move it any closer to the TI. Besides, I'd rather not have to snake any more cords down there. This is one of the reasons I'm trying to keep them stock and as short as possible, so using the TI as the source of power makes more sense to me... and it'll cut down on the rats nest of wires too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I have been reading this thread with some interest. I mounted a USB port on my PEB and then found a mini coffee maker that makes a single cup of coffee at a a time that works with it. I plugged it into the USB port and, to keep my coffee warm I set it on the console in front of the cartridge port(tongue firmly planted in cheek). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 What do you guys think of << DEVICE LIKE THIS >> for stepping down the 12v lead to 5v? I think it should cover any regulation issues I wish I had seen this before I ordered the cable shown in message #9. This method of course would require a Dremel type tool to make the proper rectangular cutout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Well, at least you know it's designed for charging, it may give you the higher current charge. But now I wonder if the PEB power supply can deliver. That one is saying 3A out... One of the original issues was that the PEB power supply's +12 and +5 lines were only intended to run a single full height floppy drive. You could usually get away with two half-heights because they tended to draw less current, but it was easy to max them out. ISRT that the limit was only about 1A, and there was a mod to beef it up a bit. Anyone else remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Well, at least you know it's designed for charging, it may give you the higher current charge. But now I wonder if the PEB power supply can deliver. That one is saying 3A out... Yes, the specifications are listed as 3A (MAX). While the voltage is the electromotive force, the current requirement is dependent on the device that draws it. I'm guessing that the item pictured below will draw less current than a legacy full height drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yes, I'm sure it will, but at one point you were talking about charging a cell phone, which will draw a lot more than that does. Eh, all you can do is try it. If the drive isn't spinning you will have all the power available anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 What do you guys think of << DEVICE LIKE THIS >> for stepping down the 12v lead to 5v? I think it should cover any regulation issues I wish I had seen this before I ordered the cable shown in message #9. This method of course would require a Dremel type tool to make the proper rectangular cutout. In my opinion, this part is to "strong" for the PEBs power-supply. I have experienced problems with a 2nd floppy-drive only, once. Only a suggestion: what about a small mini-transformator or loader/charger (110V->12V + 5V), that you connect near to the PEBs power-inlet, means before it´s power-supply ? Maybe you can connect it from/to the fans´ power, which is "before" the supply, and "before" its fuse ? So this "load" is not on the power-supply, and you would have the ability to connect some more, other internal devices like harddrives a.s.o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Great idea there, thanks. It's also been suggested privately that I get an automotive USB charger and tap the 12v line instead, due to the power supplies lack of regulation inside the P-Box. I'm ashamed to admit it, but for some reason I had always ASSUMED the TI's power supply was regulated, even though I knew all the individual cards have built in regulators. Hmmmm. As long as you take the power from the Floppy drive molex plug, it IS regulated. There's no need to step down the 12v to 5v. In fact that's a bad idea, because the 12v line is the one that draws the most current when a drive is running. There's plenty of available current on the 5v line to charge a cellphone. Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Just use this as your surge protector and plug the bridge into it. Just trying to think outside the (PE)box............... (I can't be the first person to make that joke right?) Budz, I really liked you idea, and upon further reflection, think that << THIS >> variant on your suggestion might be the best way to go for me, thinking outside the P-Box of course. It's small enough to fit BEHIND the P-Box in it's tower arrangement and still not be seen, while keeping things from getting all strung out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budz2355 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Budz, I really liked you idea, Awesome!! I just bought all this stuff this morning: Once it comes I am sure I will have some questions how to hook it all up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 I take it you already have the Ethernet cable to plug into those DB25's? Actually, that's a smart way you're doing it. Everything is color coded, so it'll go super easy with no soldering required... although you'll need a special tool to remove those damn pins if you screw up! Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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