StarPath Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Ah, ok sorry To hell with discourse and discussion! Seriously though, it's a shame we can't have this but BOTH sides of the political coin like to throw hissy-fits when their ideological programming, i mean deeply-held beliefs are challenged. So I can see why that is banned from discussion in a place that's supposed to be uniting people with a common interest or hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipercub Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 A few clues here: http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/2015/roundup092_2015.09.php And a massive Alex Jones style breakdown to come in a week or two! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 A few clues here: http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/2015/roundup092_2015.09.php And a massive Alex Jones style breakdown to come in a week or two! Some Surf Dog mentions around 3:45, but the interesting stuff begins at 3:49:30 Mention of current iteration of RVGS team with great emphasis on that word. "There's going to be a special show whan that concludes [iGG campaign] with a lot of details from people who are truly in the know of just what happened and how it went where it went.... in terms of what we know... we're just keeping our mouths shut and letting it runs its own course." "But I think we can talk about what is going on out there with this console and the reception. I think the words "Atomic Bomb" would maybe be understating this situation". Then mentions this thread being 122 pages, so that would be around September 28th. Following is analysis from someone close to the project, mentions being disappointed with something to do with SoCal's business decisions. The commentary on Carlsen's "proto" video is priceless. Mentions of the parody skits and alcohol. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 These boards might be considered "homebrew" still, but they've come a long way and they're definitely worth digging into them, even just as a user. We'll need to see some standardization in boards. Same chips, same software that can run on similar board.. that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Down to $42,000 now, although even the daily losses appear to be slowing. Did people forget to withdraw their pledges? Apparently they can't even pull the plug on this disatser. http://crowdcharts.com/campaign/retro-vgs/daily RetroVGS sat on a wall, RetroVGS had a terrible fall... All the King's Horses and all the King's Men, Couldn't put RetroVGS back together again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What a fascinating look inside RVGS (and forum members) this has been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Down to $42,000 now, although even the daily losses appear to be slowing. Did people forget to withdraw their pledges? Apparently they can't even pull the plug on this disatser. http://crowdcharts.com/campaign/retro-vgs/daily RetroVGS sat on a wall, RetroVGS had a terrible fall... All the King's Horses and all the King's Men, Couldn't put RetroVGS back together again... Oh great. Now the first RVGS 2.0 console shell will be "eggshell". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Oh great. Now the first RVGS 2.0 console shell will be "eggshell". Didn't know Jaguars were the egg-laying type! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Down to $42,000 now, although even the daily losses appear to be slowing. Did people forget to withdraw their pledges? Apparently they can't even pull the plug on this disatser. My understanding is that IGG does not allow a campaign to be cancelled once a pledge has been made, so they may have no choice at this point but to let it slowly die on the vine. It doesn't reflect too well on IGG, that's for sure: it has too few barriers to entry (allowing hardware projects without prototypes), and too many barriers to exit (not allowing unsuccessful or troubled campaigns to be closed early). The Kickstarter model seems to handle these situations much better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 We'll need to see some standardization in boards. Same chips, same software that can run on similar board.. that sort of thing. That's unlikely to happen (if anything because chips will get more.powerful and cheaper), but why is it a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Just like the early computers. The ones with the standardization survived today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtris Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Just like the early computers. The ones with the standardization survived today. unlike PCs, it's not possible to standardize FPGA videogame designs, unless they all have identical hardware down to the circuit level, so there's no way to make compatible systems without literally a 1:1 clone of it, unlike with PCs. They would have to use the same model FPGA, the same model DRAM, same DACs, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Yup. now that Intel owns Altera maybe we'll see arrays become standard in the low-end consumer arena. And maybe, somehow, more standardization. Edited October 5, 2015 by Keatah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_gaiden2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Some Surf Dog mentions around 3:45, but the interesting stuff begins at 3:49:30 Mention of current iteration of RVGS team with great emphasis on that word. "There's going to be a special show whan that concludes [iGG campaign] with a lot of details from people who are truly in the know of just what happened and how it went where it went.... in terms of what we know... we're just keeping our mouths shut and letting it runs its own course." "But I think we can talk about what is going on out there with this console and the reception. I think the words "Atomic Bomb" would maybe be understating this situation". Then mentions this thread being 122 pages, so that would be around September 28th. Following is analysis from someone close to the project, mentions being disappointed with something to do with SoCal's business decisions. The commentary on Carlsen's "proto" video is priceless. Mentions of the parody skits and alcohol. Just listening to it right now. Looking forward to the next podcast. One quote from the podcasters (referring to the John Carlsen video): "I have seen beheading videos with less cringe factors" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yup. now that Intel owns Altera maybe we'll see arrays become standard in the low-end consumer arena. And maybe, somehow, more standardization. So what kind of FPGA comes bundled with AMD proc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkiker2089 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 They can't close it as long as it's pledged, right? So when I see the money get real low I'll pledge 1 dollar just to keep it open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 One quote from the podcasters (referring to the John Carlsen video): "I have seen beheading videos with less cringe factors" Well, I think that's a bit harsh. I mean, how could you not trust this guy? But seriously, I've been listening to it, too, and I like their candor. Now that the campaign is all but over, I'm looking forward to hearing them tell the inside story, as they mentioned they would. They can't close it as long as it's pledged, right? So when I see the money get real low I'll pledge 1 dollar just to keep it open.I don't think that's necessary. Why not just let it run its course? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yup. now that Intel owns Altera maybe we'll see arrays become standard in the low-end consumer arena. And maybe, somehow, more standardization. The thing about FPGA code is that it's very modular if you design it to reimplement existing chips. You can also separate your "board integration" layer with the rest, so porting the core to a new board/bigger FPGA only requires changing that part. The part that is more difficult is if you port a core from a bigger board to a smaller one which might have less features to reduce cost (less logic gates, less internal RAM, etc). But this work is only a concern for developers. The end user just gets a core file to install on his box; usually by loading from SD or uploaded by USB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) They can't close it as long as it's pledged, right? So when I see the money get real low I'll pledge 1 dollar just to keep it open. I don't think that's necessary. Why not just let it run its course? I want my ten dollars back, dammit! Edited October 6, 2015 by stardust4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnovaX5 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 No reason to keep a pledge in this IGG. Just have IGG refund it and let the project die in peace. I'm sure Mike Kennedy will snap far before the 30 day ending and end up scrubbing most of the IGG into non-existence. With any luck we won't ever hear from him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 It really is a shame IGG doesn't have a way to handle this. Anyone good with cipherin' and "goes into" maths able to estimate what IGG makes on 45 days worth of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Assuming an 8% annual return, you'd get $400 if the $40,000 was held for 45 days (give or take). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 $38,802 and dropping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Multiply that by 100 or 200 projects in the pipeline and you get a nice bit of pocket change for doing essentially zero work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleridge Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Is it too soon to be the ghost of the Retro VGS for halloween? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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