WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This is a video tutorial How to ROM split Thanks this was very helpful. Good to see you reaching out with your very best! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Thanks this was very helpful. Good to see you reaching out with your very best! Hey, at least I tried. More than can be said by your efforts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Nevermind Edited January 15, 2019 by WAVE 1 GAMES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Nevermind Are you bug fixing out loud again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Are you bug fixing out loud again? No. I soldered my first working game board today https://youtu.be/6-CRduaeo2o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 No. I soldered my first working game board today Excellent! Now all you need is a working game to put on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I can feel the burn from here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I refuse to engage in such fuckery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageGamer74 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 @Wave 1 Games. Cool, man. Good luck with your future projects! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I refuse to engage in such fuckery "Fuckery"... "Bug fixing"... "Honesty".... it's all the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I have had a heck of a time finding the correct sockets for these boards, I keep smaller, up to 40pin, but nothing 42. Does https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/3M-Electronic-Solutions-Division/4842-6000-CP?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tvt1%2fmEPT%2fXorZIrGZxBfeI%3dseem correct? I've burned the posted sample, guess I'll try them after work on day this week and see if I can some success... are you sure? https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=42pin+dip&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=42pin+dip+socket&_sacat=0 seems easy enough to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 are you sure? https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=42pin+dip&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=42pin+dip+socket&_sacat=0 seems easy enough to me Those work great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPattonDotCom Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Thanks to all the helpful (and even the unhelpful) comments, I've been able to create my first working cart. Its cool to see all the hard work people have put in to help keep these systems running. Now to go back and see what I've done wrong in my previous attempts. Thanks All. Update, its source I'm using for the roms, as the Raiden roms I tried to split pass a burn test, but wont run. So at least I know where to start looking. Edited January 18, 2019 by RobPattonDotCom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPattonDotCom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Ok, I'm clearly missing something. I'm using a copy of Raiden Jiffi confirms the file has the header Hex edit confirms Romsplit –we raiden.rom gives me raiden.hi and raiden.lo Burn those Have tried this twice, one attempt goes straight to red jaguar screen, the other time it does the jaguar intro, but after that goes into red jag screen, I'm not sure if that is coincidence Edited January 18, 2019 by RobPattonDotCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Isn't working because is the "Alt" version of the rom, according to jiffi. Try this one. Maybe it work! Raiden.rar Edited January 20, 2019 by santosp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Great thread guys. I have now successfully programmed and soldered 6 games. I need to find some more of the little mini capacitors for the c1 and c4 spots for 3 of the boards I have done. I am trying to find somewhere locally that carries them, but no luck so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 If your still going to be using clear or opaque shells I suggest you invest in some properly printed UV resistant eprom window stickers. I had some made that cover virtually all of the eprom and they do look a lot nicer than cut tape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 I need to find some more of the little mini capacitors for the c1 and c4 spots for 3 of the boards I have done. I am trying to find somewhere locally that carries them, but no luck so far. 20190120_035009.jpg I believe they are 1uf. Digikey sells 500 for $35. I'm not sure they are needed. I've made some carts without them and they seem to work. Do not know if there will be any negative long term effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I believe they are 1uf. Digikey sells 500 for $35. I'm not sure they are needed. I've made some carts without them and they seem to work. Do not know if there will be any negative long term effects Thanks for the link. And well what do you know they do work without them!!! Anybody have any idea what will happen over time without them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 If your still going to be using clear or opaque shells I suggest you invest in some properly printed UV resistant eprom window stickers. I had some made that cover virtually all of the eprom and they do look a lot nicer than cut tape. Where did you have them made? I remember this generic print shop online that also does mugs and flyers doing stickers as well, but I'm not sure if they were UV resistant... I also cant remember the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) I used a generic online one too, but UK based. The stickers where just a few mm smaller than the eprom, so virtually the whole chip was covered 14x50 mm. Can't remember the cost exactly but 600 stickers came in at about £35. They were vinyl and not paper. Edited January 20, 2019 by neo_rg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 The capacitors (decoupling capacitors) are there to reduce noise from the power lines caused by the circuitry within the ICs from switching on and off. Not using them may work, but also may introduce random noise into the system (whole Jaguar system), which in turn may lead to strange behaviour and crashes in the extreme. They will also help ensure the EPROMs get a nice smooth power feed, and noise from the system doesn't cause errors reading from the ROMs too.Personally, I'd say if they are there, they have been put there for a reason, so I'd be inclined to also include them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 The capacitors (decoupling capacitors) are there to reduce noise from the power lines caused by the circuitry within the ICs from switching on and off. Not using them may work, but also may introduce random noise into the system (whole Jaguar system), which in turn may lead to strange behaviour and crashes in the extreme. They will also help ensure the EPROMs get a nice smooth power feed, and noise from the system doesn't cause errors reading from the ROMs too. Personally, I'd say if they are there, they have been put there for a reason, so I'd be inclined to also include them. Yeah I ordered some but in the meantime I can still solder chips to the boards and test the games to make sure my solder job was correct without them. I just wanted to make sure turning the system on with one inserted that DOESN'T have the capacitors wouldn't screw up my Jag. I wish RadioShack hadn't went out of buisness as I know they used to carry these. The digikey link was good. I ordered 100 for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yeah I ordered some but in the meantime I can still solder chips to the boards and test the games to make sure my solder job was correct without them. I just wanted to make sure turning the system on with one inserted that DOESN'T have the capacitors wouldn't screw up my Jag. I wish RadioShack hadn't went out of buisness as I know they used to carry these. But when they crash, how do you tell if its a bad burn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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