Andromeda Stardust Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I remember in the late 90s / early 2000s, my friend and I used to play a little game with urls in a web browser. Basically we would piece together random strings of words that sounded funny, with or without hyphens, add dotcom, dotnet, or dotorg to it, type it in the address bar, and hit enter. If something cool came up, like a personal webpage or such, +1 points. 404 or some other html error, 0 points. Domain "for sale," ad portal, web redirect, -1 points. Pornographic website, or an alarm from the antivirus software, -10 points. My friend who wasn't the brightest of the bunch, often opted for perverted sounding combinations of words half the time (which often got him docked 10 points), and I was usually the only person with a positive score. A couple years after the dotcom bust, nearly everything was "domain for sale" or an ad portal, so the url game slowly became pointless and not fun anymore. Edited March 24, 2015 by stardust4ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) at this game today, a real man should gain at least -1.000.000.000 in an hour ( points for this many b p-sites ) and, you can play it on the TI now Edited March 24, 2015 by schmitzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bear in mind that after expiration, a domain will go into renewal period of 30 days followed by a "redemption period," which can vary in length depending upon the "value" calculated by the registrar. You will need to stay on top of it EVERY SINGLE DAY after expiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 How will I be able to bid on it? I mean, at what point (assuming nobody scoops it up) will I be able to register it on the open market through a server like godaddy? By stay on top of it, do you mean that at ANY TIME it could go public, or does it have to go through a full 30 day period before it is available again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I guess the best way to phrase ghe question is, What exaxtly are the technical differences between renewal and redemption periods? Renewal=current owner has 30 days to reregister Redemption=registrar sets value and you can opt to buy it at that price or take your chances that it will come open That about it? Edited March 24, 2015 by Opry99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Mostly. During the renewal period the owner can reclaim the domain for regular renewal pricing. During redemption it is still not publicly available and the owner can purchase it back for a very hefty price (I had two customers fall into redemption before, one had to pay $250 and the other $1,200 due to the perceived "value" of the domain, which registrars do not expose.) If the "owner" does not renew and the domain falls out of redemption (not all domains go into a redemption period, by the way,) it will go into a non-registered status (like it never existed) and you can snag it at your favorite domain registrar. I use a whois proxy to watch domains (I have a bunch of TLDs with my family name, but some smug bastard has the .com which I never cared about, anyway, long story, but I watch it just for kicks.) You can use your registrar's to do the same thing. Start hitting it the day it expires and keep an eye on it. What you might try is seeing if when it expires you can get it on "back-order." Some registrars will let you pay some amount to try to register the domain for you whenever it becomes available. I do not know how they price that service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from OPA Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I know this is off-topic, but since we are discussing domain trolls: Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/taylor-swift-buys-taylorswift-porn-before-trolls-get-the-chance-1.3005556 American sweetheart Taylor Swift is now the legal owner of TaylorSwift.porn. But don't worry, Swifties the pop star's URL purchase is not part of an attempt to shake off her wholesome image. In fact, it's quite the opposite. CNN reports that Swift's team is part of "a select group of people and companies" that have been given access to some of ICANN's more controversial new generic top-level domains (gTLDs) before they're released to the public. Snapping up TaylorSwift.porn and TaylorSwift.adult before anyone else can simply minimizes the chance of trolls doing something unsavoury with a domain name bearing the singer's name. BTW: I am raising funds to buy ti99.sucks and atariage.sucks only $2500 each (just joking) I wish there was .rules that would be cool --> ti99.rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I know this is off-topic, but since we are discussing domain trolls: Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/taylor-swift-buys-taylorswift-porn-before-trolls-get-the-chance-1.3005556 The hell? There's a .porn and a .adult now? Really, isn't the .xxx domain enough that we need to add more? They already own half the .com s as it is. BTW: I am raising funds to buy ti99.sucks and atariage.sucks only $2500 each (just joking) I wish there was .rules that would be cool --> ti99.rules So there's really a .sucks TLD or are you pulling a joke here? Holy crap. I just googled it and apparently .sucks and .suck are a thing now. I think ICANN bow too much to the whims of every special interest group lobbying for TDLs. Why don't they just get it over with and do a .fu while they're at it? EDIT: http://www.dawnimages.com/fortunata/dot_FU.htm :facepalm: Edited March 24, 2015 by stardust4ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Nuts... Truly nuts. LOL!!!! TI99.porn would be pretty slick... Just have pictures of the F18A, Greg and Jim's TI setups, a picture of Bill Cosby with the "This is the One" quotation over his head, throw in pix of some cart boards, a .gif of Turboforth running some Forthy sh**, a pic or two of the CTIUG Faire, and a couple screenshots of Rasmus games and Id say we've got us some true /4a porn!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 For anyone here who watches "Archer," I believe Dr. Kreiger's quote which starts with "Stop!" would fit here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 My only suggestion for you is to wait, cross your fingers and hope the Japanese guy thinks is losing money and let go the domain. If this doesn't work, then try to get it from the guy. But in the meanwhile I would suggest you to register a new domain and put your site up, later you can redirect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I could set you up with a sub-domain at planet-99.net if you want. Something like opry99er.planet-99.net 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 That is very kind of you, Willsy. Ill get back to you on that one. Want to see if Opry99er.net is open... Then see what it would cost to lock it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) That is very kind of you, Willsy. Ill get back to you on that one. Want to see if Opry99er.net is open... Then see what it would cost to lock it up. it is.. 10.49 through lizardhill http://lizardhill.com/services/register/ lizardhill is owned by Don O'neil who hosts whtech.com i do all my domains/hosting through Don he's a great guy..and not a$$h0les like godaddy his hosting is reasonably priced as well.. have had arcadeshopper there forever Greg Edited March 24, 2015 by arcadeshopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 I do not do web development, as you can see on my old site. I usually go with a site hosting service that has a really intuitive drag and drop site building service... I am not technologically advanced enough to code up my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I do not do web development, as you can see on my old site. I usually go with a site hosting service that has a really intuitive drag and drop site building service... I am not technologically advanced enough to code up my own. like what, wordpress? he has a installatron for that and a buncha other stuff Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatohead Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 opry99er.net and .org are available right now. Why not pick up one of those? People can update their links, you put the word out, and it won't take much for the whole works to center in on the new one. I use gandi.net, and both were under $20, and that can be had much cheaper. Get 'em both, set them to auto-renew and maybe that guy who has the .com will realize he's got nothing and let it go, at which point you pick it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Actually, if he sees the other domains, he'll dig in. The squatters see buying the alternates as proof there is interest. But it won't matter, you only need one domain, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Yea... And I want the .com But I suppose I can wait for a website until the expiration date of the .com.... Tough decision. If i contact the guy about the .com (assuming he renews) he may register .net in hopes of getting $$. If I get .net now, before .com expires, he may renew in hopes of getting $$. Aaaaaarrrgghhhhhhh!!!!$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatohead Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I guess I see it differently. There is some small chance he might make a few bucks on it, so he's got it. He might just be speculating too, buying up active, but expired domains, hoping people will pay. He could let it go too, if that's what he's doing. But, he might go a cycle or two before doing that. Keeping it is really, really, really cheap. Almost not a worry. On the other hand, you've got stuff you want to do and some things you made out there. Linking everything over to the others will fire that all back up, and it won't take long before the .com is no longer even a consideration. He could drop porn on it, or some ads. Who cares? The best option is to make a move that renders whatever move he makes irrelevant. That's why picking up the .net and .org and moving on is the best move. He's out. No worries. Doesn't really matter what he does. After some period of time, he may well just give up and move on, or he's got some real use, whatever. You won't care anymore because you've just setup on something you have and can setup for auto renew and all that stuff. TL;DR "Screw this guy and make sure he gets nothing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Back around 2000, ICANN loosened restrictions on the major TLDs, as well .us opened up for registration. I registered my family name in all reasonable, except .com which was owned by a PHP developer in Minnesota. After I registered all of mine he renewed his for 10 years... I had to laugh, as I suspect he thought I was angling for his, too. I never thought about it again until after it expired and I found some squatter schmuck had it. Since then it has passed through a few different hands and each year before renewal my domain registration account gets an email offering to sell it to me at a great price. I just ignore them. Anyway, I suspect these asshats will have the .com domain for years to come and email me every year it comes up for renewal to try to sell it to me. I have .xyz, .net, .org, .us, .info, even a .me. Why would I bother with .com now? Screw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Dotnet is better than dotorg unless you are running an organization. Wait until the site expires. If he renews, then just screw him and get opry99er.net If he drops the domain, reregister it under opry99er.com In fact, just the discussion in this thread could show up on Google if he searches "opry99.com". He may even be reading this thread right now laughing. The less stink you make about it, the better your chances of getting it back. This thread is the sixth result for "opry99er.com" search string on Google.com, and the 4th and 5th matches are threads on other forums you started. https://www.google.com/search?num=30&newwindow=1&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=%22opry99er.com%22&oq=%22opry99er.com%22&gs_l=hp.3...2707.8048.0.8442.15.15.0.0.0.0.183.1889.0j13.13.0.msedr...0...1c.1.62.hp..11.4.645.0.VeflN60GXeI Edited March 25, 2015 by stardust4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Anyway, I suspect these asshats will have the .com domain for years to come and email me every year it comes up for renewal to try to sell it to me. I have .xyz, .net, .org, .us, .info, even a .me. Why would I bother with .com now? Screw them. the heck is .xyz domain? ICANN is getting carried away capitalizing on TDLs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Sucks... All the way around, sucks. Gonna get .net then I guess... When is best, I guess is the question. Edited March 25, 2015 by Opry99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 the heck is .xyz domain? ICANN is getting carried away capitalizing on TDLs. I am using it as the personal website that I never bothered to put together. I am writing my own CMS and doing up my own graphics for it. But, yes, the TLDs are getting out of hand, and of course being used by spammers. I have already blocked several of the new TLDs at the mail server (.work, .science, etc.) Spammers and squatters are like the inverse Midas: everything they touch turns to shyt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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