Crab Soul Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Its confusing as hell. I cant figure out how to load it. You have to make another disk and load it with dos, then put a program from the sam disk on it or something. Im dumb and dunno how to load programs. Most stuff I do autoboots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavese@online.no Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Create an empty DOS 2.0 or 2.5 disk, write DOS/DUP files from DOS menu. Copy the file from S.A.M. boot disk called Autorun.sys onto it and I think you're ready to go There's a few sample disks on my page I think : http://pokeysoft.no/games/atari/a8util.htm search for SAM Software Automated Mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I used it in assembler which was easy. Atarimania has the manual: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Create an empty DOS 2.0 or 2.5 disk, write DOS/DUP files from DOS menu. Copy the file from S.A.M. boot disk called Autorun.sys onto it and I think you're ready to go There's a few sample disks on my page I think : http://pokeysoft.no/games/atari/a8util.htm search for SAM Software Automated Mouth if I remember right, it has to be a DOS2.0 disk. DOS2.5 didn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavese@online.no Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 You might be right ... I seem to remember moving several programs onto a disk and thought I did it with 2.5, but I see my disks are all 2.0 Sorry, my mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHA Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 i wrote a basic game that swears at you using sam, its called mega swear challenge (kiddish i know but at the time i was one!) if you type "tisidubegudr" into it, the program lists itself so you can see how sam is used incase anyone is interested here it is! Mega Swear bas.atr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Soul Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 I used it in assembler which was easy. Atarimania has the manual: Wow could the 800 run that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 SAM runs on the 800. My buddy had an 800 and he introduced me to SAM. As to some of the fancy demos out there, most require extended memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Arsantica Intro runs on stock PAL Atari XL with 64kb. Atari 800 with 48k not as I am using RAM below OS which is not present on 800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfdbg Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 The SAM synthesizer should actually work regardless of the Os. However, the reciter(the program part that translates english text into phonems) seems to be pretty DOS dependent. You need to load it from the DUP menu. Actually, I believe I *might* have a patched version of the reciter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) I used it in assembler which was easy. Atarimania has the manual: I barely recognised a word in that! Are you using that together with xBIOS? If so, do you have some example code which you can share? How much RAM does SAM use up? Edited May 10, 2015 by snicklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 * sam speech test dma equ $2012 org $bc40 .byte d' ' .byte d'REVISION 2015 OLDSCHOOL DEMO COMPO ENTRY' .byte d'MACHINE: ATARI 800 XL/XE WITH MIN 64KB ' .byte d' CPU 6502, 1,77 MHZ ' .byte d' ' .byte d'CREDITS: ' .byte d' ' .byte d'CODE: HEAVEN ' .byte d'GFX: BOKANOID,LOWLIFE,HAMMERFIST ' .byte d' ' .byte d'MSX: TRIACE ' .byte d' ' .byte d' PRESENTED IN MONO 4 CHANNEL! ' .byte d' ' .byte d'SPECIAL THANKS TO JAC AND PHILSAN FOR ' .byte d'TESTING ON REAL HARDWARE AND ADVICE! ' .byte d' ' .byte d' ' .byte d' ' .byte d' ' .byte d' (C) 2015 BY DESIRE ' org $2000 ins "sam_part1_2000.obj" org $4590 ins "sam_part2_4590.obj" org $2014 .byte 'DESIRE GREETS THE REVISION POTTEE PEOPLE,,' .byte 'CREDITS FORTEE,ARSANTIKKAA 3, INTRO,,' .byte 'CODE BY HEVEN.' .byte 'PICKSELS BY BOWKANOYD, LOW LIFE AND HAMMERFIST,' .byte 'MUSIC BYTE-RYE ACE,' .byte 'SPECIAL THANXS TWO AXIS OF OXY-ROHN,' .byte 'OSWALD OF REE SOURCE.' .byte 'POPMILE OH- AND M-KAY.' .byte ',,NAOH LOWDING.',$9b org $6000 init lda #0 sta dma jsr $200b lda #0 sta 559 sta $d400 rts run init sam_part1+2.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Thank you for the code above. As far as I can see, there is nothing in there which is xBIOS dependent. Correct me if I am wrong. I was considering playing with SAM a little. I was also considering adding this to the xBIOS manual I am compiling, but as there's nothing xBIOS about it, I will not do so. It's useful code though for those of us who want to play with SAM. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 what should have been xBios related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I had asked if it was being used with xBIOS and if so, could you supply some code. You then supplied code, so I thought that you had used xBIOS with this demo. When people mentioned that you have to use Atari Dos, I thought that you had found a clever way of using xBIOS with SAM. It's OK, it doesn't matter, just a little confusion... Please may the thread continue....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A little OT: When I was in highschool, we were required to make a 30-second audio commercial that would be played over the radio. All I can say is, Graphics 9 is your friend! for that ultra demonic voiceover, it sounded awesome. Mind you, you couldn't really understand a damn word he said but I'll never forget the kid who said: "I have no idea what you're selling but I'd buy it!" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACML Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) A little SAM tid bit: Remember the introduction of the Macintosh in 1984 when the MAC says "I am Macintosh"? go to the 2:48 part of the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=210&v=G0FtgZNOD44 Everyone in 1984 thought it was revolutionary right? Did you know that that speech synthesizer had it origins in the 800's SAM. It used the "speech engine" from "Don't Ask"'s SAM. Atari had this a couple years before the Macintosh. Remember: Good artists copy, great artists steal. Edited May 12, 2015 by ACML 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I can't believe what I have just seen. A Mac running Flashjazzcat's GUI. How did they predict it back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 A little SAM tid bit: Remember the introduction of the Macintosh in 1984 when the MAC says "I am Macintosh"? go to the 2:48 part of the clip <snip> Everyone in 1984 thought it was revolutionary right? Did you know that that speech synthesizer had it origins in the 800's SAM. It used the "speech engine" from "Don't Ask"'s SAM. Atari had this a couple years before the Macintosh. Remember: Good artists copy, great artists steal. Many popular 8 bits had some sort of software speech. The Apple II, C64, CoCo/Dragon, BBC Micro, Spectrum, etc... all had some sort of software speech synthesizer around '82 or '83. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 And don't forget the Gorf arcade machine! S P A C E C A D E T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 And don't forget the Gorf arcade machine! S P A C E C A D E T And Berserk "Coins detected in pocket" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 If you are going to bring up speech hardware there were a lot more systems... but SAM doesn't require additional hardware 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 SAM = (S)oftware (A)ctuated (M)outh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 SAM = (S)oftware (A)ctuated (M)outh. SAM=(S)oftware (A)utomatic (M)outh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I guess memory can get fuzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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