+KaeruYojimbo Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I can't even understand WHY the seller would want to have the buyer return the item?! The seller KNOWS it's a fake, and he can make another one for far less then $70. My guess would be to keep up the charade. By refunding the buyer's money without asking for the game back, be would basically be publicly admitting that the item he sold is worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Asking the buyer to send it back is another weak ploy to hope the buyer will decide to keep the game so he will not be out the shipping fees...and maybe decide to try and resell it to some other person rather than send it back. The seller knows it's fake and he is also mad the buyer has discovered his charade, so it's also his passive agressive way of punishing the buyer. The guy is just scum....worst of the worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 He is an atari terrorist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 sorry you gotta go through this mane. it is a fun game, but not $700 fun, even for a real one. too bad you wont be able to reason with this reptilian to have him refund you know, like $650 and let you keep the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Wow, I thought you were in Australia - now you got to fork out more to return the item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Revolver Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 I escalated to the high value department and talked to a rep they said they decided they were gonna give me my money back, so they say,Guess they sent the douchebag a message saying he has 5 days to send me a return signature confirmation label so i can send it back then they will refund. hope they do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is good news, Max. I hope your money will be back to you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Revolver Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Hope so Rom hunter, only problem is the seller is gonna do these over and over,feel bad for the other people that are gonna end up buying from this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yes. He will eventually get his money back, eBay always leans towards the buyers, even unfairly at times. But I agree, the real danger & damage here is the slew of past, present, and future buyers that get scammed by this seller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Make sure you do send it with signature confirmation and insurance as well. Also I would take a picture of the packed parcel and be sure to keep the shipping receipt and also the drop off receipt from the post office if you bring it in for drop off. Do whatever you can to cover yourself. Knowing this guy he will probably do whatever he can to try and keep the money. And this can include him saying he never received it back, or it was damaged or you sent back a different item etc. He is obviously a dishonest seller and no doubt this will extend to the returns process too. Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Revolver Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Exactly stupus was thinking that also lol, but yea ima take pictures and have hin sign for it, not risking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I must be on ignore, I want to see the circuit board. Take a toothpick and open the dustdoor, take a couple angle pictures. EDIT: I don't think you can put moderators on ignore. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Max revolver, please do take the time to get some pics for CPUWIZ before you send it back! Hopefully it will at least shed some light where this snake is sourcing his fakes from! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yeah Max. Glad you're getting your money back. Open the hatch and snap a brief photo of the pins before you do though. We are all curious and wanna prevent this in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 That's the problem with Ebay and the anonymous bidders. No one can give them warnings. I remember back in the day I used to warn people about scam sellers all the time. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totallyterrificpants Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 GBA and DS games are the common ticket for scammers to sell fakes. Guess this guy realised how rare some Atari games are but were too dumb to realise you shouldn't sell 8 copies of an extremely rare game. Especially when only around 100 are estimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) too dumb to realise you shouldn't sell 8 copies of an extremely rare game. Especially when only around 100 are estimated. no no no... THIS, as in, what is written up here, is why this happens to people like the original poster in this thread. It is this kind of misinformation, or lack thereof, that helps scammers get away with this! (THERE'S ONLY 2 OF THEM!) And had the buyer done even the most minimal amount of research, either on this site or even the internet in general, he would have known that the item the eBay seller was auctioning looks nothing like the real deal. And this is the REAL problem here; though it's not politically correct to say it because the original poster did get burned. Edited November 23, 2015 by Supergun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIO2 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought only two had been found but a hundred or more may exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yes, there are at least 100 reproductions out there; as were part of the controlled community release. But only 2 originals have surfaced in over 30 years, and even using the most liberal estimates, perhaps a few others may turn up in the future. What I'm trying to say is, if you pay 5K for a PAL NES Stadium Events cart thinking it's NTSC, and an actual picture of the cart clearly showed the label was not the NTSC label, then TWO things have happened in that scenario. One of them is that the buyer has been scammed. Take a wild guess what the other is. The RSC listings by this seller which have pictures of the cart, also clearly show a similar type of red flag as in the above SE example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 GBA and DS games are the common ticket for scammers to sell fakes. Guess this guy realised how rare some Atari games are but were too dumb to realise you shouldn't sell 8 copies of an extremely rare game. Especially when only around 100 are estimated. No. Fake pirate GBA and DS games are far more likely to be sold by innocent sellers who picked up the game cheaply or selling from their personal collection thinking they were real. Piracy of GBA and DS run rampant for years despite Nintendo's best efforts to stop it. Most legit sellers or game shops will happily accept returns if you politely inform them they sold you a fake item. Sadly, these modern fakes are still infiltrating the United States from the Far East and apparently the collector's hobby has gotten big enough that Asian copycats are offering fake NES, SNES, and N64 for sale on Alibaba et al. Typically the build quality of these newly manufactured fake carts are far inferior to the quality of fake garage repros using vintage recycled hardware. But any fake R10 rare Atari games are almost exclusively homemade in the scammers garage and the perps selling these items know EXACTLY what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Revolver Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ok guys let me open the hatch n take pictures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Revolver Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I must be on ignore, I want to see the circuit board. Take a toothpick and open the dustdoor, take a couple angle pictures. EDIT: I don't think you can put moderators on ignore. I must be on ignore, I want to see the circuit board. Take a toothpick and open the dustdoor, take a couple angle pictures. EDIT: I don't think you can put moderators on ignore. will do ima take some pics.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Does "ima" mean "I am going to"? Sorry, I am getting old, need to keep up with hip shit. Looking forward to a peek into the bottom of the cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Does "ima" mean "I am going to"? Sorry, I am getting old, need to keep up with hip shit. Looking forward to a peek into the bottom of the cart. Yes ima is a slurred I am going to. Think of a redneck saying "I'm a gonna do that Cletus". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 WTH? This crap still happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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