+splendidnut Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 @SpiceWare Thanks. That might be something to look into... that and possibly upgrading to the newest Stella. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3710693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) @SpiceWare Thanks. That might be something to look into... that and possibly upgrading to the newest Stella. I thought I was using the newest Stella, 5.0.0-pre4, though I see pre5 was released yesterday! I just downloaded the source, so I can migrate the BUS and CDF bankswitch support to it, and ran Chaos Chaotic Grill again: Edited March 5, 2017 by SpiceWare Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3711156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 @SpiceWare I probably should have phrased that better... I meant that I probably should upgrade to the latest stella. I did find the issues with the initialization after turning those randomizing settings on. It seems that the code was going off into la la land. I fixed the code and it seems to be running better... except on real hardware... and by real hardware, I mean the Harmony Cart in my 7800. I'll have to dig out my 2600 and try it on that. Anyways, Here is an updated version with the initialization fixed, and the beginnings of the burger drop logic in the code. chaoticGrill-2017-03-05.bin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3711415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Nice! Hmm - yep, it crashes on hardware. I took a look at the code in Stella: and most likely this (or another instance like it) was the issue dey beq LF351 lda #<DF4DATA The 6502 will always fetch the instruction following a branch, even if the branch is taken. The older DPC+ driver would see LDA # and, if fast fetch was turned on, perform fast fetch logic. That would cause the crash if the branch was taken. batari figured out a way for the driver to handle that situation. So I suspected you used an older version of the DPC+.arm file and swapped it out* for this one: DPC+20121020.arm.zip and it now runs correctly: Updated game ROM: newcg.bin * I used these terminal instructions on my Mac to remove the driver you used and put the newer one in its place. They'll also work in Linux: dd skip=3 count=29 if=chaoticGrill-2017-03-05.bin of=cg29K.bin bs=1024 cat DPC+20121020.arm cg29K.bin > newcg.bin 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3711522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybot67 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Woohoo! I'm so excited that work on this remake will continue, I had almost given up hope. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3711570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Woohoo! I'm so excited that work on this remake will continue, I had almost given up hope. same here! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3711685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Burgertime!!?!?!!! Woot!! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3712064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 Thanks SpiceWare... the demo finally works on a real system again. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3712245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 So a minor status update: I've started working on eliminating as much flicker as possible with the sprites. I've started by re-vamping the display kernel and adding in all the re-positioning kernels required. This is turning out to be a bit of a pain... I've gotten all the re-positioning kernels done, but I've basically run out of cycles to use for updating the DPC+ registers in mid-draw. I'm thinking I'll need to change the sprites/PM graphics to work similar to how the ANTIC/GTIA works. So, I'll have a sprite buffer as tall as the screen in the DPC+ Display Data area and basically pre-render the sprites into it, so that the only thing I need to worry about is changing the position between sprites. Although... I'll need to sort the sprites and figure out any kind of flicker multiplexing which now will be more complicated.... This is the point at which I ask, "What have I gotten myself into?" Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3775568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 So, I'll have a sprite buffer as tall as the screen in the DPC+ Display Data area and basically pre-render the sprites into it, so that the only thing I need to worry about is changing the position between sprites. Although... I'll need to sort the sprites and figure out any kind of flicker multiplexing which now will be more complicated.... That's exactly how I do it in Space Rocks and Draconian, though I'm using ARM code to handle the multiplexing and update the datastreams. DPC+ does have a copy function which you'd be able to use to fill your datastreams from 6507 code. I've not used them myself though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3775597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodHare Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I'm really looking forward to this. It looks very promising so far. Keep up the great work! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3778105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinroh Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Ditto, I love me some Burgertime and your version has been one of the nicest looking ones around. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3782494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 That's exactly how I do it in Space Rocks and Draconian, though I'm using ARM code to handle the multiplexing and update the datastreams. DPC+ does have a copy function which you'd be able to use to fill your datastreams from 6507 code. I've not used them myself though. I'll admit that I've been slowly pulling ideas from your development blogs... poorly. I believe it is your Draconian code snippets that I was using as a reference when doing all the mid-scanline kernels. After I was done, I randomly discovered the chart (for Stay Frosty 2... maybe?) you had originally used to figure out your timings for all the mid-scanline kernels, which would have been nice to have when I started. I might end up using the Copy function... I'm not sure yet. I still seem to have ample time available outside the drawing kernel. Thank you for writing all those blogs, they are quite handy. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3784279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm really looking forward to this. It looks very promising so far. Keep up the great work! Ditto, I love me some Burgertime and your version has been one of the nicest looking ones around. Thanks for the compliments! I'm hoping to keep my motivation going... and try to get this done in the near future. Hopefully sooner, rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3784281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Thank you! That chart's probably the one Andrew posted in his tutorial. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3784309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodHare Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Thanks for the compliments! I'm hoping to keep my motivation going... and try to get this done in the near future. Hopefully sooner, rather than later. No problem man! You deserve the compliments. If there's one game I'm really excited about seeing finished, it's this one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3786735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybot67 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hey Splendidnut, how is the motivation going? I keeping hoping for an update on this amazing port. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3901144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenJ Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hey Splendidnut, how is the motivation going? I keeping hoping for an update on this amazing port. Same here! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3901416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Thanks for the compliments! I'm hoping to keep my motivation going... and try to get this done in the near future. Hopefully sooner, rather than later. You can do it!!!! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-3901805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Has there been any updates on this? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4098310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thanks for the compliments! I'm hoping to keep my motivation going... and try to get this done in the near future. Hopefully sooner, rather than later. Has there been any updates on this? splendidnut - your BT was brought up in the last Zeropage Homebrew show and there's alot of interest in this being completed! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4098434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 The short story is no. After last summer, I got busy with other things and the project was thrown on the back burner. I did some work back in January, surprisingly, which involved improving the player movement logic... which I've started working a bit this morning. It's now in a very good state. The player appears to properly obey the level layout. Now if I can get the enemies to follow suit... That'd be enough progress for me to share another build. We will see what today brings. As a side note... Back in March, I was contacted by another homebrew developer who was/is very interested in doing a Burgertime remake. Whether this person wants to reveal themselves or not, is up to them. So it's quite possible there will be a Burgertime remake in the near future... whether it's this one, or that one. splendidnut - your BT was brought up in the last Zeropage Homebrew show and there's alot of interest in this being completed! Well that's interesting... Do you happen to have a reference for that mention in Zeropage Homebrew? I'd be interested in seeing it. I kind of went looking for it thru one of the videos... skimmed it a bit... but didn't stumble upon it I will say that Zeropage Homebrews is a very neat concept. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4098931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Well actually...if I could correct myself... the short story would be yes... but not enough to share yet Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4098936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 And now both the Player and the Enemies appear to correctly obey the level layout Here is a bin of the latest update: chaoticGrill-2018-08-25.bin 7 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4099034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 And now both the Player and the Enemies appear to correctly obey the level layout Here is a bin of the latest update: Awesome work! Now if there were some collision detection Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/246769-chaotic-grill-burgertime-remake-in-progress/page/3/#findComment-4099177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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