SumerNivek Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Anyone want to give good old Kevin Bow a "poke" on Facebook and make sure he is all right tonight? Today was, like, his Xmas Morning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Nick Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 A ton of mud from Lancashire. Just remember that phrase for later. The next phrase that pays? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_gaiden2015 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 .... so the sleuth hunt begins to identify which board is actually in there. The genesis, famicom & super famicom are all crossed of the list as I just googled pictures of the boards to compare it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 2. I'm pretty sure that's a 5mm through-hole LED with a wire and electrical tape in the attached photo (I've highlighted it). It's not part of the board. It may be the only powered thing in the pictures. Looking closer at the picture the LED does appear to be pointing the wrong way to be mounted to the board, but pointed the right way to be stuck in there with rather over guage wire and electrical tape. blinkenlighten. ossom. an update totally worth waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 ..and what if it is their own design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 A couple observations: 1. That looks like a very complicated and expensive board for what they're trying to achieve. A cost-effective board would have a CPU and a FPGA and little else. Think of things like Raspberry-Pi and OUYA. The Chinese clone consoles have little more than an epoxy blob. That looks more like something out of a high-end console or some other equipment. 2. I'm pretty sure that's a 5mm through-hole LED with a wire and electrical tape in the attached photo (I've highlighted it). It's not part of the board. It may be the only powered thing in the pictures. 3. It should be possible to do a Google Images match on the board with some clever editing. No dice. The image is too obscured. Only someone familiar with the exact PCB layout pictured will be able to identify it. It did not take long for sleuths to identify the PCB the last time we had Mike hide something underneath the Jaguar shell. If this turns out to be a real FPGA prototyping dev kit, that would be a good sign. If this is a custom fab, we may never be able to identify what's on it without part numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepdreamin Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 gotta love how that "menu" doesn't even have instructions for selecting a game, you know like any decent true multicart would. "A: to start, B: for options" etc.. etc.. Come on Mike, at least TRY next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webmiester Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Wondering what those giant electro caps are for. Go look up Cyclone evaluation boards and those types are nowhere to be found. Why put big tall through hole caps on a mostly surface mount board? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxtheowl Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 gotta love how that "menu" doesn't even have instructions for selecting a game, you know like any decent true multicart would. "A: to start, B: for options" etc.. etc.. Come on Mike, at least TRY next time. Buttons are a stretch goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Anyone want to give good old Kevin Bow a "poke" on Facebook and make sure he is all right tonight? Today was, like, his Xmas Morning. I'll break it to him gently... "... Lennie, tell me about the bunny rabbits again..." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 No dice. The image is too obscured. Only someone familiar with the exact PCB layout pictured will be able to identify it. It did not take long for sleuths to identify the PCB the last time we had Mike hide something underneath the Jaguar shell. If this turns out to be a real FPGA prototyping dev kit, that would be a good sign. If this is a custom fab, we may never be able to identify what's on it without part numbers. Hard to tell if that PCB has anything to do with a FPGA, to me if kinda look like a mobile device GPU with no cart slot and the only hook up is a led light not connected to the board 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Nick Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Paging Kevtris, to assist with board identity...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I'll break it to him gently... "... Lennie, tell me about the bunny rabbits again..." I know we are all having a good time here, but isn't that crossing the line a bit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Wondering what those giant electro caps are for. Go look up Cyclone evaluation boards and those types are nowhere to be found. Why put big tall through hole caps on a mostly surface mount board? Because the DirectTV receiver that board came out of needed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannacek Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Wondering what those giant electro caps are for. Go look up Cyclone evaluation boards and those types are nowhere to be found. Why put big tall through hole caps on a mostly surface mount board? At this point we know its a scam, but for a real prototype one would use whatever parts that had lying around, or parts one has used before and knows how to use, or one would use an existing board with those caps just to get the thing working. Then when they move to mass produce it, they would redesign as many parts as they could to reduce costs, reduce heat, and increase efficiency and reliability. Edited February 27, 2016 by Hannacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Paging Kevtris, to assist with board identity...... If it's any type of FPGA or ARM dev board, Kevtris would likely know about it. If it's a random piece of junk PCB pulled from random scrap electronics because it had the right shape, we may never be able to identify it. While I would like to believe it is a custom fab designed to fit the Jag shell, my confidence in Mike and his posse is not high right now. It is also highly likely that a development FPGA or ARM board might not fit properly inside the Jag case. Hell, if you really want to convince us, show a PCB lying on a table with a rats nest of wires coming out, wired into a breadboard with a cartridge port. Show us the cartrige being inserted into the wired cart slot, power being applied, and that the video cable leading out of the back of the PCB actually feeds to the TV in question. One uncut video, no edits allowed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 No dice. The image is too obscured. Only someone familiar with the exact PCB layout pictured will be able to identify it. It did not take long for sleuths to identify the PCB the last time we had Mike hide something underneath the Jaguar shell. If this turns out to be a real FPGA prototyping dev kit, that would be a good sign. If this is a custom fab, we may never be able to identify what's on it without part numbers. Yes. There are a hundred different parts shaped and sized like so. So that avenue of Identification is out. There is what looks like half of a 40-pin IDE connector near the bottom/front. Well, good for them, they got consultation on how to hide the full identity of the board. I'm hoping it's a custom designed board myself, or a dev kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 If it's any type of FPGA or ARM dev board, Kevtris would likely know about it. If it's a random piece of junk PCB pulled from random scrap electronics because it had the right shape, we may never be able to identify it. While I would like to believe it is a custom fab designed to fit the Jag shell, my confidence in Mike and his posse is not high right now. It is also highly likely that a development FPGA or ARM board might not fit properly inside the Jag case. Hell, if you really want to convince us, show a PCB lying on a table with a rats nest of wires coming out, wired into a breadboard with a cartridge port. Show us the cartrige being inserted into the wired cart slot, power being applied, and that the video cable leading out of the back of the PCB actually feeds to the TV in question. One uncut video, no edits allowed. That's the old-school way!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I'm leaning towards custom pcb. It has two usb ports up front where they should be for the controllers, and everything else seems approximately in place. But there's not enough in those pics to be certain. It also does look like that LED is fudged in there with the wires running off somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webmiester Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 At this point we know its a scam, but for a real prototype one would use whatever parts that had lying around, or parts one has used before and knows how to use, or one would use an existing board with those caps just to get the thing working. Then when they get ready to mass produce it, they would redesign as many parts as they could to reduce costs, reduce heat, and increase efficiency and reliability. Well, if it's a custom PCB as they say, then that doesn't hold water. They would pick reasonable parts and it's my opinion that those caps don't fit the design of a complicated, packed board like we can see. In my opinion someone who can arrange a board with 200+ pin ICs wouldn't pick those caps. There's no way to make a one off with 'parts lying around' at this level of complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It does look like an FPGA dev board, maybe more than one to make it look longer. At the bottom there's either two short JTAG connectors or one long one. The chips looks hard to identify but there's something of a logo in one. I'm sure it's a dev board of some kind, not an actual prototype. They've proven they have a PCB with hopefully an FPGA. Guess what, I also have one and you can get your own for a few hundred $ from a few places. So right now, there is nothing really amazing on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I'm leaning towards custom pcb. It has two usb ports up front where they should be for the controllers, and everything else seems approximately in place. But there's not enough in those pics to be certain. It also does look like that LED is fudged in there with the wires running off somewhere else. I'm not convinced. I can't really see that there are USB ports on the board. Only that there's something under the plastic up there. It could all be stuff taped or glued in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClassyGamer Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I just feel like if this were the real deal, the level of showman ship would be through the roof. There would be so much video showing everything about this. Showing it hooked up to the tv, the cart being inserted, the menu and startup screens coming up and all in such a way that one couldn't easily fake. Rather we got pictures that are questionable at best. The chance to prove everyone wrong and that Chameleon is the real deal is sitting right there.. that is if it were real. It's not. I don't think there needs to be any more evidence or proof of the fact that is fake other than if it were real it would be shoved in our collective faces in such a way we couldn't even begin to contest it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raticon Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Also note that the controller on the table below the TV is the unmodified Wii-U one with the home button and the + and - buttons at the top, lacking their logo and everything... For all we know that could even be a fake cable at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannacek Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Well, if it's a custom PCB as they say, then that doesn't hold water. They would pick reasonable parts and it's my opinion that those caps don't fit the design of a complicated, packed board like we can see. In my opinion someone who can arrange a board with 200+ pin ICs wouldn't pick those caps. There's no way to make a one off with 'parts lying around' at this level of complexity. They can use whatever parts they want, because it doesn't work. Edited February 27, 2016 by Hannacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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