Andromeda Stardust Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Dr. Manhattan if we are being trolled then Mike has more money than he knows what to do with. Bringing a fake proto to a trade show is not something a troll would do. No, he's trolling us because he's got nothing. Real geniuses show off their shit. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Manhattan Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 They aren't that clever. If they did, they would do it right the first time. See also satirical posts by BunnyBoy on social media. That's how you do it. Get it right first, then crack all the jokes you want. It's funny that you mention him. He's making a great product IMO, and with a lot less fanfare, attention and support than the RetroVGS / Coleco Shameleon. EDIT: I guess that's what I'm trying to understand here. What the heck is the motivation here? Is it pure contempt? Is it total hubris? Is it lulzy trolling? I just cant see any logical reason for any of the decisions they have made with this product. To put it bluntly, I am baffled. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Kennedy must be at "losing his house" level crisis to be making this little sense... that, or he really thinks that he is THAT much smarter than the rest of the gaming community. This is so disgustingly... insulting. I hope everyone who has a GameGavel account deletes it. kittybot, just wanted to add, of all the parody videos I've watched, your "Step right up, here's our prototype. It is not an SNES..." video with the Carnival Zone soundtrack has got to be my favorite Mike Kennedy parody yet. I laughed so hard watching it... 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Kennedy must be at "losing his house" level crisis to be making this little sense... that, or he really thinks that he is THAT much smarter than the rest of the gaming community. This is so disgustingly... insulting. I hope everyone who has a GameGavel account deletes it. oh yes, for real right now nobody should support GameGavel or RETRO magazine at all, the scam MK tried to pull is beyond absurd. As much as Mike is not a tech guy come on, you cant see the cart wont connect to that board at all? "Hey Li? i keep putting the cart in but nothing happens, what do i do now?" This proves Mike is no victim, he is no victim of the evil tech guys mafia, he cant be that fool (avoiding using more offensive words here) to ignore that was fake right? Since well he staged those photos. What would be the next lie from Mike? "oh well i never had this prototype, all these photos was mailed to me by Li, omg he tricked me, there was no leprechaun inside!" 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 kittybot, just wanted to add, of all the parody videos I've watched, your "Step right up, here's our prototype. It is not an SNES..." video with the Carnival Zone soundtrack has got to be my favorite Mike Kennedy parody yet. I laughed so hard watching it... yep, good videos 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 It's funny that you mention him. He's making a great product IMO, and with a lot less fanfare, attention and support than the RetroVGS / Coleco Shameleon. And he'll sell a hella lot more consoles than Mike ever will... 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 I demand another Nostalgia SH-IT video to celebrate yet another highlight of the project. To be clear, there's no way I can be convinced that there was/is no intent to deceive. This is now pretty obvious full on intentional. 8 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I demand another Nostalgia SH-IT video to celebrate yet another highlight of the project. Game Escape has an amazing gift for satirical comedy, but as much as I'd love to see another entry in the Nostalgia SH-IT saga, I'm not sure that even he can come up with a parody that is more ridiculous than what's actually happened. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 oh yes, for real right now nobody should support GameGavel or RETRO magazine at all, the scam MK tried to pull is beyond absurd. As much as Mike is not a tech guy come on, you cant see the cart wont connect to that board at all? "Hey Li? i keep putting the cart in but nothing happens, what do i do now?" This proves Mike is no victim, he is no victim of the evil tech guys mafia, he cant be that fool (avoiding using more offensive words here) to ignore that was fake right? Since well he staged those photos. What would be the next lie from Mike? "oh well i never had this prototype, all these photos was mailed to me by Li, omg he tricked me, there was no leprechaun inside!" Well I've never bought anything on Game Gavel because I never found much I wanted besides commons. And although I backed year one and year two of Retro on Kickstarter, I am done. Mike's reputation is so far tainted, it's like the Midas touch. Except instead of , everything he touches turns into . 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Pat Contri's recent Tweet reminded me of something: I'm disgusted not just by the scammers now, but by anyone who helped promote, shill, or even report on this mess without doing any homework. Remember those zero-research puff pieces by Engadget and Gizmodo? I think they should issue a retraction. Then there was Mike's softball interview last year with Gamester81 ... 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupanIII Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 You need to trademark that. I heard that Kanye West bought MK out at the last minute. The Chameleon didn't make the KS Date because its being renamed the Kanye Grafx 2016. I found a picture of the prototype too. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 @PatTheNESpunk Page does not exist. Edit: Fixed. https://twitter.com/PatTheNESpunk/status/704508745649246211 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Brilliant turn of events here. This gets more and more bizarre every day. 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dommie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 oh yes, for real right now nobody should support GameGavel or RETRO magazine at all, the scam MK tried to pull is beyond absurd. As much as Mike is not a tech guy come on, you cant see the cart wont connect to that board at all? "Hey Li? i keep putting the cart in but nothing happens, what do i do now?" This proves Mike is no victim, he is no victim of the evil tech guys mafia, he cant be that fool (avoiding using more offensive words here) to ignore that was fake right? Since well he staged those photos. What would be the next lie from Mike? "oh well i never had this prototype, all these photos was mailed to me by Li, omg he tricked me, there was no leprechaun inside!" Cart not connected to the board, system not connected to the AC outlet or the TV, fake "screenshot", this whole thing stinks to high heaven. And there is no way to deny you had any idea between the cart just sitting there, no wall plug or AV, etc. It is literally undeniable from MK's perspective. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Pat Contri @PatTheNESpunk 3h3 hours ago The Retro VGS team took down that picture of the closeup of the board from their FB page after they realized they were caught. Pat Contri @PatTheNESpunk 3h3 hours ago I'm disgusted not just by the scammers now, but by anyone who helped promote, shill, or even report on this mess without doing any homework. Pat Contri @PatTheNESpunk 3h3 hours ago The @AtariAge peeps identified what was in the latest fake Coleco Chameleon prototype: HICAP50B DVR Capture Card. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Page does not exist. Edit: Fixed. https://twitter.com/PatTheNESpunk/status/704508745649246211 Thanks. I was trying to post a link to his tweet about the puff pieces and softball coverage the Retro VGS team got. I amended my post. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dommie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) So can we get a betting matrix and start wagering on when they completely pull the plug on the facebook page and website for this steaming pile of dog shit? Because that's literally all they can do with this project at this point. There is no recovery. Edited March 1, 2016 by dommie 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I have to admit, when I started the thread about HW speculations I did not see the "DVR card" coming. I have a wild imagination but they beat me. I declare defeat. I'm gonna repeat myself but so did they (3 times already) but I feel like: Edited March 1, 2016 by phoenixdownita 8 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Believe most of us got confused since it looked like a Video Card with integrated analog Sound Believe Kevtris post that there was no visual ram chips killed that Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Believe most of us got confused since it looked like a Video Card with integrated analog Sound Believe Kevtris post that there was no visual ram chips killed that What a great ending!!! The guy who knew first-hand that Mike was full of shit all along is the same guy that leads to his downfall!! This truly is a historic day in RVGStory. 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 What a great ending!!! The guy who knew first-hand that Mike was full of shit all along is the same guy that leads to his downfall!! This truly is a historic day in RVGStory. Oh, no no no no. Mike's downfall is Mike, pure and simple. The rest of us here are pure choreography to his madness. 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benheck Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 As some of you may know I transitioned from retro gaming to the pinball world a while back. Been a fun ride and we've had good success so far. But there were some major blows to that sub-culture, namely a Predator game the makers didn't have the license for, and the Popaduik games that were beautiful looking yet unplayable. In the end around 2 million vanished off the market. Many buyers asked "why didn't anyone warn us?" They had been warned but refused to listen. I smell all of the same BS with this project. If they're asking for money, and there's no prototype, then it's doomed to fail. Ask yourself: Am I paying for them to manufacture something they've already designed (decent chance of success) or am I paying them to develop something they want to build? (Fail) Paying to Develop fails because KS is all about rewards. You're paying to get a console, not to fund their research. As a backer you want a tangible item in return. Unless they've figured that into their profit (unlikely) then they'll quickly get behind and even if hardware gets designed, they'll lack the funds to build. Hell, even a prototype isn't enough. What's the business plan? Where are the games coming from? Who is this system even for? Cartridges are stupid, period. They were a product of their time because disk drives themselves were too expensive as a hardware item. The only reason collectors like them is because they're collectable and hold apparent value better than a disc. Even if this is the "world's best SNES clone with HDMI" nobody's gonna to develop for it anyway. If the Ouya couldn't take off with all the support of Android, a slow-as-balls console that forces you to use assembly won't stand a chance. Wait for Kevtris to do his thing. Then it will be done right. 24 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dommie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Not sure if this has been posted here or not yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWJV2YgNXIo 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheNerd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Preview of the next prototype! 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 This may be an obvious joke, but I'm throwing it in anyway ... ... I guess Mike forgot to instruct "Mr. Li" to create a bug-free prototype! "Simple as that!" 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/157/#findComment-3454671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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