panamajoe Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The quote that keeps on giving. As far as the Toy Fair shows so far his idea of "different" is to play SNES games with SNES controllers on a SNES mini but in a Jag case and ask you money on KS to accomplish all that. I see the KS part must be the difference. To be fair the SD2SNES hovers at around 180US$, if he can give me the whole shebang console and cart (tape or no tape) for 150US$ then I'd buy. well, the Super EverDrive v2 is just 79$ and it comes with a tape-free-shell http://shop.krikzz.com/Super-EverDrive-v2-SPEDV2.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, no lab grade power supply this time around... ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I think I'll hold out for the "Super Chameleon," I hear it uses a N64... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClassyGamer Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I think I'll hold out for the "Super Chameleon," I hear it uses a N64... Actually, I hear they are in talks with both Phillips and Sony to produce a CD expansion for the Chameleon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 ..but, but, but- CARTRIDGES! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 chameleon = snes clone? top marks to mickcris & the rest of DetectiveAge :0) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Oh my god guys... I've heard what's happening at the booth (got a man on the inside). As you can see from the map of the expo hall, Mike's booth is far away from the main action. I don't expect them to live stream. Let's just say they are getting some visitors... but the tumbleweeds weren't interested! Edited February 13, 2016 by StopDrop&Retro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Found it. What do I win? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+phoenixdownita Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Oh my god guys... I've heard what's happening at the booth (got a man on the inside). As you can see from the map of the expo hall, Mike's booth is far away from the main action. I don't expect them to live stream. Let's just say they are getting some visitors... but the tumbleweeds weren't interested! Can you get your "insider" to take some meaningful pics or is that forbidden at the Fair without consent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm not sure I understand the general reaction here. What if this thing actually was a Super-NES in a Jaguar enclosure? Shouldn't that be regarded as good news? The Super-NES hardware is documented well enough that enterprising people could get started on making new games for the Chameleon without having to wait to receive a dev kit from Mike & co. And many Super-NES legacy games could be re-released as Jag-like carts. I dunno, that just sounds like a good thing to me... Isn't the SNES known for having a notoriously slow CPU? To me that would seem like handcuffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickcris Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Can you get your "insider" to take some meaningful pics or is that forbidden at the Fair without consent? Just saw this on youtube. doubt anyone is going to get any closer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OipncvjdHrc I assume when they go to change to the game, they turn the monitor around so no one sees the flash cart menu. Edited February 13, 2016 by mickcris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupanIII Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) From a Gametech usa video, lol... I wonder what's sticking out inside there? Pict is of an SNES JR It's not a SNES clone because it uses that proprietary plug used on the SNES/N64/GC, most clones just use regular 3 plug RCA. And it's not a SNES 1 because then it would have an RF output in between the av and power. This is a SNES Mini. Edited February 13, 2016 by RupanIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+phoenixdownita Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) I guess tomorrow to curb the rumors that this is a SNES mini in disguise we will be treated to: http://www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-RetroGEN-Cartridge-Super-NES-6306300/dp/B0071IDAQU and a MegaED. (I'm making this stuff up, I do not know if the MegaED works on the RetroBit adapter or not ... but hey it will show Genesis games on the Coleco Chameleon, then they can use the NES RetroBit adapter and even the GBA .... oh the accolades) Edited February 13, 2016 by phoenixdownita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupanIII Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Don't forget the SNES JR... That's the second component. I guess the shared components are:1) electrical tape2) ....that's it.EDIT: I know I'm taking cheap shots, but for once I would love to have Parrothead chime in and say something, anything about the Toy Fair proto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I do not know if the MegaED works on the RetroBit adapter or not I tested the Everdrive MD and Mega Everdrive with that adapter a while back. I can't remember which, but one of them works on the adapter and the other doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 As much as I have enjoyed the schadenfreude around this project, aren't we jumping the gun here? I know they haven't given enough information to know anything about this, but just because we see familiar components doesn't /necessarily/ mean it's an SNES. Remember how RVGS was talking about using 32X cabling? Original designs aren't really their thing, but literally repurposing SNES and calling it "new" seems too lame, even for this circus. Their marketing campaign (or lack thereof) is total fair game for mockery, I think. So Toy Fair literally was a place to announce the start date for their Kickstarter? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickcris Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 As much as I have enjoyed the schadenfreude around this project, aren't we jumping the gun here? I know they haven't given enough information to know anything about this, but just because we see familiar components doesn't /necessarily/ mean it's an SNES. Remember how RVGS was talking about using 32X cabling? Original designs aren't really their thing, but literally repurposing SNES and calling it "new" seems too lame, even for this circus. Their marketing campaign (or lack thereof) is total fair game for mockery, I think. So Toy Fair literally was a place to announce the start date for their Kickstarter? I think that more likely than not that, it is an SNES and an SD2SNES. I just think they dont have a real working prototype so this was a short cut. Im sure the hardware they show next week will look nothing like what they are showing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I know they haven't given enough information to know anything about this, but just because we see familiar components doesn't /necessarily/ mean it's an SNES. Remember how RVGS was talking about using 32X cabling? If it was just the cabling, I'd be a lot less confident. But when the A/V cable is a proprietary SNES cable, and the controllers are SNES controllers, and the cartridge connector is an SNES cartridge connector, it stands to reason that there's a good chance that the system inside the Jaguar shell is an SNES. Has anyone seen this "prototype" playing games that are not already available on the SNES? Has anyone actually seen it playing the Intellivision or Coleco titles mentioned in the launch lineup, or has it only been existing SNES titles? Showing something new would at least demonstrate that they've actually done some development for this thing in the months after the IGG campaign, beyond putting SNES parts in a shell and covering them over with tape. As it is, it's hard to find anything in this "prototype" that is uniquely theirs: they've got a borrowed Jaguar shell on the outside, and borrowed SNES guts on the inside. Other than the gobs of electrical tape, all that's unique here is the logo stamped on the shell ... and even that is a modification of the original Coleco logo. It doesn't take months of "working miracles" to come up with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 If they have no shame, then they shall get no money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leods Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 If it was just the cabling, I'd be a lot less confident. But when the A/V cable is a proprietary SNES cable, and the controllers are SNES controllers, and the cartridge connector is an SNES cartridge connector, it stands to reason that there's a good chance that the system inside the Jaguar shell is an SNES. Has anyone seen this "prototype" playing games that are not already available on the SNES? Has anyone seen the Intellivision or Coleco titles mentioned in the launch lineup, or has it only been existing SNES titles on display? And it's not just that. The geometry of the components is also the exact same. The Position of every single component that can be seen matches the Position it is on an SNES Jr. Every single Piece of evidence Points to this being an SNES Jr. Everything matches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+phoenixdownita Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 As much as I have enjoyed the schadenfreude around this project, aren't we jumping the gun here? I know they haven't given enough information to know anything about this, but just because we see familiar components doesn't /necessarily/ mean it's an SNES. Remember how RVGS was talking about using 32X cabling? Original designs aren't really their thing, but literally repurposing SNES and calling it "new" seems too lame, even for this circus. Their marketing campaign (or lack thereof) is total fair game for mockery, I think. So Toy Fair literally was a place to announce the start date for their Kickstarter? I'm totally jumping the gun. Maybe at the Fair Mike is telling people they didn't make it in time with their prototype so they are just showing which kind of games they are targeting to support ... or NOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I just find it strange to have a device at Toy Fair that probably doesn't contain anything close to your prototype and/or finished product. Wouldn't buyers be put off by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+phoenixdownita Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 I just find it strange to have a device at Toy Fair that probably doesn't contain anything close to your prototype and/or finished product. Wouldn't buyers be put off by this? "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" & "This is madness" "No! ...... This ....... is ........ Chameleon!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galax Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 From a Gametech usa video, lol... I wonder what's sticking out inside there? Pict is of an SNES JR I'm no expert but the cartridge connector in that photo sure looks familiar... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm no expert but the cartridge connector in that photo sure looks familiar... ... and crooked, almost as if the board was originally designed to fit inside some other plastic shell, and is being held in place in the Jaguar shell with electrical tape. (But then again, we're just hating haters, and we love dragging other peoples' good names through the mud for absolutely no reason, because we're all filled with hatred and hate.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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