sh3-rg Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I think the 50 boards might be a preliminary limit for OMF's sanity rather than the final total. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Looks awesome - I will be interested in getting a copy when it becomes available. I'm not sure 50 boards will be enough to to meet demand... the first run will be 100 remember as of yesterday there was nothing put together. another 50 boards will be prepared maybe tonight, certainly by the end of the week. then the large task of programming eproms 'AGAIN' will commence 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I know you're pretty new to that Jaguar carts stuff, but that's not how it should be done. You're supposed to tell people only 50 copies will be made, wait a bit until the second-hand prices soar, then slowly sell more copies on eBay using a shill account -- while chastising people for driving the prices up. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Any hint on price? I understand some people here would be open to pay whatever .... say 500US$, I am NOT one of those, I have limited resources, so price is important to me. If that means I'll be at the bottom of the pile so be it, nonetheless I'd like to know if you guys already have an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Any hint on price? Jaguar homebrew cart: $60-$90ish Playing amazing new release game ported to 23 year-old Atari system named after predaceous jungle cat: Priceless. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BitJag Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Jaguar homebrew cart: $60-$90ish Playing amazing new release game ported to 23 year-old Atari system named after predaceous jungle cat: Priceless. Sir, you just made my day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Jaguar homebrew cart: $60-$90ish Playing amazing new release game ported to 23 year-old Atari system named after predaceous jungle cat: Priceless. I have a different take on it but I don't know the actual cost of making this things in small batches. I would love to buy a cart only version (no box, manual, extras etc...: just the game in the Jag shell with a decal) to save $$$ .... I played Xenon 2 to death on all other platforms excluding the actual Atari ST so paying more than I would pay for a new "big budget" game it's something I have trouble with no matter how you slice it. Again I don't know the cost of producing this things in small batches, but for example the cost of 7800 homebrew from the AA store at around 30US$ seems fair to me, I would wish a little cheaper hence the suggestion cart only as I care about the game only, all the remaining collectibles are pretty moot on me, actually it annoys me to no end when there's so much emphasis on the box, the glossy manual etc... when all I want is to play the game ... but that is just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjameslv Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I also am a cart only guy, could care less about manuals or boxes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 What? You mean you buy games to play them instead of letting them sit on a shelf to look pretty and become an eBay investment?? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BitJag Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Here is a list of prices of previous limited run releases (as far as I know they are limited anyways...), some may or may not be homebrew. If I had to make a guess probably between $70 - $90 for Xenon II. But I have no direct affiliation with this project, so don't take my word for it, I am just looking at the trends. Recent Releases Alice's Mom's Rescue ~$70 Another World ~$70 Downfall+ ~$65 Older Releases Mad Bodies ~$80 Blackout! ~$80 Most of Songbird Productions Releases ~$85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Downfall+ ~$65 Still kicking myself in the face for not buying this when it was available. Oh well, maybe someday an AA member moving on to stamp collecting or canasta tournaments will sell me their copy.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Here is a list of prices of previous limited run releases (as far as I know they are limited anyways...), some may or may not be homebrew. If I had to make a guess probably between $70 - $90 for Xenon II. But I have no direct affiliation with this project, so don't take my word for it, I am just looking at the trends. Recent Releases Alice's Mom's Rescue ~$70 Another World ~$70 Downfall+ ~$65 Older Releases Mad Bodies ~$80 Blackout! ~$80 Most of Songbird Productions Releases ~$85 At this price I'm probably out .... I really don't care what it could fetch if I were to hold onto it and sell it on eBay once it's rare (that is day 1 afternoon)! I repeat once more I am not sure how much it costs to produce any of them, but I can speculate the cart at 8US$ (last MK price) + PCB at 5US$ + EPROMs at 5US$ + Decal at 2US$ = 20US$ just in material. [to be fair decals can be had for penny in bigger batches, the same it is true for EPROMs/FLASH, PCBs, not sure about cart shells]. My point being I am not ready to pay 90US$ for homebrew games, I cannot justify it to myself considering I feel bad when I pay 30US$ for contemporary games, I want them cheaper. So I'll wait to know what the price is going to be, and I would suggest to charge whatever the market takes, be it 30US$ or 90US$ or 250US$ or more .... I'll buy if and only if I think the price is right anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I would go for $85! (wine snobbism) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) At this price I'm probably out .... I really don't care what it could fetch if I were to hold onto it and sell it on eBay once it's rare (that is day 1 afternoon)! I repeat once more I am not sure how much it costs to produce any of them, but I can speculate the cart at 8US$ (last MK price) + PCB at 5US$ + EPROMs at 5US$ + Decal at 2US$ = 20US$ just in material. [to be fair decals can be had for penny in bigger batches, the same it is true for EPROMs/FLASH, PCBs, not sure about cart shells]. My point being I am not ready to pay 90US$ for homebrew games, I cannot justify it to myself considering I feel bad when I pay 30US$ for contemporary games, I want them cheaper. So I'll wait to know what the price is going to be, and I would suggest to charge whatever the market takes, be it 30US$ or 90US$ or 250US$ or more .... I'll buy if and only if I think the price is right anyway. the components in their raw form are useless, purchasing a descent programmer that doesn't take 1 hour to program 1 chip costs mega $$$ not to mention sanity lost soldering 100 solder joints per board * 100 boards regardless of this I don't care either way I am not handling the sale, only board production, I don't even have access to the box / labels, so pay or don't. im sure there will be someone else to take your place and purchase one. Edited April 4, 2016 by omf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 the components in their raw form are useless, purchasing a descent programmer that doesn't take 1 hour to program 1 chip costs mega $$$ not to mention sanity lost soldering 100 solder joints per board * 100 boards, regardless of this I don't care either way I am not handling the sale, only board production, I don't even have access to the box / labels, so pay or don't. im sure there will be someone else to take your place and purchase one. I'm sure too hence my suggestion to raise the price to whatever the market can take, but I still don't get the defensive stance. I wasn't complaining or anything, if you want to sell it for 1M$ go ahead it's your project not mine. I was asking about estimated price, and it seems people are throwing around numbers so I commented on those making a speculative analysis on material costs, that's it. The fact that "official" figures are not yet public is the only part that leaves me wanting to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 the components in their raw form are useless, purchasing a descent programmer that doesn't take 1 hour to program 1 chip costs mega $$$ not to mention sanity lost soldering 100 solder joints per board * 100 boards, Word, people never think about this sort of thing. My latest programmer cost over $600 and the soldering, even with through hole parts, takes a lot of time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 second 50 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Word, people never think about this sort of thing. My latest programmer cost over $600 and the soldering, even with through hole parts, takes a lot of time. I'm well aware of all that. Again I wasn't complaining per se, in the end I decide what to buy and what not so there's no foul playing here. I was asking and commenting, no offense meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) This man will tell you the price: http://tinyurl.com/m3mbl5x Edited April 4, 2016 by ls650 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 100 boards make that 200 if there is demand, i don't think that 200 will be available at once though, I need a rest before starting another batch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapicco Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Getting close I see! I understand their are no preorder lists, I just hope everyone who expressed interest here on AA are able to get one! I don't have the free time lately to check AA as much as I was and I would hate to miss out by letting a day or two pass without checking in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaNZ Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I really want this. Any idea on how or when we'll be able to order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 second 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Looking forward to this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 No Jagtopus for Xenon II ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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