Asmusr Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 First glimpse of big Mario. Edit: I will start a new thread in the Development forum when the next preview is ready. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yes please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It is looking good--and is a use case to buy an F18A all by itself! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I was about to ask how those graphics are possible, but F18A is as good hint as anything. It looks wonderful, and about two billion light years better than e.g. the NEC-8801 version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Incredible... Thank you Rasmus... Thank you for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 sound is divine (göttlich) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Music is too fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutsy Doodleheimer Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Very impressive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Hatter Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Outstanding!! Love that game, looks just as good (better?) than the NES version. I may have to get an F18A... or just fire it up on the Geneve when it's released hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Great work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 This is indeed very impressive! What a lot of potential there is inside the F18A. Obviously the graphical capabilities were the most significant feature of the home computer platforms. They define what is possible and what not. Well, you also need a good CPU behind, but it seems as if the F18A takes all the heavy lifting, and the rest of the TI console may organise the rest of the application. With that in mind, there could not have been a better confirmation of my view than this demonstration: This is another evolutionary step of the TI-99/4A ... to something new. Programs for the F18A-enhanced console will not work on the original console, with no other expansion whatsoever. If you write games or applications for the F18A, they will be completely different from a programming point of view. Hence, I again suggest to think about this a new member of the TI family, given another name like "TI-99/18A" or "TI-99/4F", to make the difference clear. Just saying this is a "TI-99/4A with F18A" really does not hit the point, it is so much different from "TI-99/4A with floppy controller" or "with RS232" or "with speech", even "with 80col card". If it were only for the VGA output, then yes, but we see that there a lot of demand for exploiting its new capabilities. Don't misunderstand me - I'm clearly not against the F18A, it's just that if you say "now finally we can get SMB on the TI-99/4A" this is not really appropriate - in particular with respect to all past and hopefully future endeavors to squeeze out all that unused potential of the (original) TI-99/4A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I don't know why, but I kind of like "TI-99/18A". A little awkward to say, but it appeals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The F18A is definitely much more than a video enhancement, that is for sure. I'm not sure I would agree that F18A-enhanced programs require anything but the console, Michael--as the F18A's internal 9900-based co-processor is doing a lot of graphics heavy lifting, you could still write a bank switched cartridge that uses it to its fullest while using no other TI resources beyond the cartridge ROM and the scratchpad RAM. That is really no different than other programs that require specific hardware enhancements (80-column cards, disks, RS-232, etc.). It still might not be a bad idea to designate machines with an installed F18A as TI-99/4F machines though. I somehow like that. . .and this is a configuration that can't be simulated when switching to a Geneve either, as the Geneve doesn't have that neat 9900 co-processor in the video chip. . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'm not using the F18A GPU in SMB at all - it is used purely as a VDP enhancement, like you could with a 9938 if it had the graphic capabilities. It might even be possible to make a 9918A version of SMB with 8 pixel scrolling and limited sprite colors using the same code base. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I tend to agree with Michael on this one from a purist's standpoint. Regardless of whether one is using the F18A GPU or just the enhanced color palette, these programs are targeting an evolutionary upgrade to the historical TI 99/4A and so the target enhanced console should be labeled as such. TI 99/18A is as good a denomination as any That said, this demo is truly amazing and I can't wait to see the full game, although I would be super curious as to what it would look like without the F18A enhancements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 ... so the target enhanced console should be labeled as such. OLD CS1 came up with the solution back in December of 2013... As for the software labels or documentation, you can always slap on a couple of designation icons... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I like the TI-99/4F sound so familiar Search-Tags: Super Mario Bros Brothers SMB Port (as topic was renamed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) I like the TI-99/4F sound so familiar Probably because of << THIS >> article... Oh, and while this article is cool and would easily facilitate Tursi's PS/2 keyboard connector and the F18A's video connector... I personally cannot bring myself to go this route. I'm not a purist, but there is just something about the original P-Box and console that 'does it' for me. So while I'm like a retro-mod car guy, I'll put in a new transmission, disk brakes, stereo or whatever... BUT I'M KEEPING THE BODY ORIGINAL! Edited January 16, 2016 by --- Ω --- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I see this from a different perspective. When I got into PC's, I upgraded from CGA to EGA and then to VGA shortly after that. To me a PC is a PC, the video card does not seem to change that in my mind. I guess that's why the video does not seem to change things to me on the TI. I really respect the way Matthew made this card 100% compatible with all existing software, while at the same time giving us all some exciting new capabilities to keep things fresh and exciting. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Probably because of << THIS >> article... omg, I forgot the /F, of course....sorry hmmm, TI-99/18A TI-99/418 TI-99/F18A TI-99/A18 TI-99/FA (Four A) TI-99/F8 (F-ight) TI-99/4FA (Four for all) TI-99/4A-F18A (expanded by your blue sticker, nice way) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 To me a PC is a PC, the video card does not seem to change that in my mind. I guess that's why the video does not seem to change things to me on the TI. Yes, on the PC the difference is more in the detail quality, so the video card does not have such a big impact. But we're talking about a home computer. The F18A can boost the console's capabilities so far that completely new applications or games become available. What is a demonstration of outstanding programming skills on the (plain) TI-99/4A may become an everyday job for the F18A. As you see, I'm arguing more from the view of a programmer than of a user. Take, for example, the C64 with its poor CPU but very versatile graphic chip with raster line interrupts. I think we can agree that the C64 had some games that cannot be ported to the TI, at least with an acceptable quality. And this is mainly due to architectural decisions long ago. This proves to me that the graphics are much more important in the home computer area, especially when you're near the minimum of what you require for a proper operation. There is nothing to say against modernizing the TI platform, but I think it deserves to be adequately named, and "TI-99/4A // F18A-enhanced" is not enough in that respect, as I think. This merely sounds like "speech-enhanced". Some more ideas: TI-99/4E (enhanced) TI-99/4F (FPGA) TI-99/4G (Graphics-enhanced) TI-99/4H (Hi-quality graphics) TI-99/4I (ehm, I guess I'll come up with something) No need to decide anything in this thread now ... just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I understand where you are coming from and I agree from the standpoint that it's more than just a speech enhancement because of all the non-compatible extra features in provides the user. I'm not sure if renaming the console could be confusing to a newbie or not, because most of us that have been here for a while and take a lot of this stuff as common knowledge . The consumer electronics industry uses standardized logos so the consumer does not get confused with compatibility issues. If it has the matching logo, you are GOOD TO GO. The reason I made the little icons was because it' appears to be a tried and true method for ensuring compatibility without confusion from the consumers perspective. Maybe if I changed the logos coloring? Like RED for required and BLUE for enhanced, no logo at all would of couese mean it's not even an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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