GlowingGhoul Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Got my hands on some excellent desoldering / soldering gear - a new Pace desoldering vacuum station and some high end Weller soldering equipment. And now want to play with it. Before I go nuts and put everything into machine or Textool ZIF sockets , what, besides the ram is reasonable to socket on 600XL's and 130XE's? Edited February 17, 2016 by GlowingGhoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Everything. Also, a Ultimate 1 Meg is a much better solution than a ZIF socket. You can change your OS, BASIC, and much more without opening the computer. Simply flash a file from disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowingGhoul Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Everything. Also, a Ultimate 1 Meg is a much better solution than a ZIF socket. You can change your OS, BASIC, and much more without opening the computer. Simply flash a file from disk. Does U1M eliminate the need for on-board ram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It still requires the 64KB base, but not the extended memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Got my hands on some excellent desoldering / soldering gear - a new Pace desoldering vacuum station and some high end Weller soldering equipment. And now want to play with it. Before I go nuts and put everything into machine or Textool ZIF sockets , what, besides the ram is reasonable to socket on 600XL's and 130XE's? Desoldering tool? If your live in the Seattle area, you are my new best buddy. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 600XL's are usually all socketed - you should be good there. 130XE's need everything redone if you want to be safe and future-proof. Though as Kyle points out, a U1MB is pretty awesome as well. Mine's currently in an 800XL. Now, if you wanna pull the three main IC's on my troublesome Rev 16 2600 "Vader" machine so I can solder in new sockets, you'd be my hero, lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Risk vs benefit - these machines are old too so there's chance of lifting traces or otherwise damaging the board during solder work. I'd probably leave it at Ram, CPU, custom chips including MMU, OS, Basic, Delay Line, and 600XL the 74LS ICs that are involved in the 64K expansion mod. All up that'd be about a dozen ICs plus however many Rams are present on an XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Risk vs benefit - these machines are old too so there's chance of lifting traces or otherwise damaging the board during solder work. I'd probably leave it at Ram, CPU, custom chips including MMU, OS, Basic, Delay Line, and 600XL the 74LS ICs that are involved in the 64K expansion mod. All up that'd be about a dozen ICs plus however many Rams are present on an XL. As long as his heat ain't too high, do you think it's riskly with a desoldering tool? Those things take off solder very easy and gently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Some of the XE boards are complete crap. I once tried to remove a faulty power switch from a 130XE with a 15 watt iron and solder pump and the thick traces peeled right off. I only have one of those boards (very deep, matte green) and it went straight on the spares pile. Other boards are fine and quite robust, but it all depends on confidence and skill levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Does U1M eliminate the need for on-board ram? More info on U1M: http://www.lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=67 The SIDE2 hard disk cart is the perfect companion for the U1M: http://www.lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=68 Look around here, you'll find lots of good info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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