Atari8bitCarts Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Here are the German versions of the Thorn EMI cartridges Ork Attack (Ritter) and Submarine Commander (U-Boot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I have a Polish LK Avalon multicart ("Atari 1") with 4 games that I picked up from Nir Dary. Does anyone have a Polish cart rarity list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 There are 16 sets of that carts. Currently 4 of them are dumped. Check news form 23rd of May at Atarimania. Waiting for the next ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 16!? Wow. Anybody have a pic of carts 2-16 and box/docs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 There are 16 sets of that carts. Currently 4 of them are dumped. Check news form 23rd of May at Atarimania. Waiting for the next ones. 16!? Wow. Anybody have a pic of carts 2-16 and box/docs? I'm curious if those are the actual names on the carts (Atrax #01, #02, etc.). The menus themselves are identical, aside from the game entries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLund1 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Is the mis-spelled Star Raiders (Star Raider) considered rare? Also what about recent but but not made any longer carts, ie Blast-5200? Similar but different, what about 800 add in cards, say before made before year 2000? Almost all are rare, yes? Like Mosic Ram power cards.(this probably should be different thread?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Note my cart. It says 'Atari 1' as the title and 'Productions AtraX' at the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 AtraX carts 6 and 13: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Note my cart. It says 'Atari 1' as the title and 'Productions AtraX' at the bottom. Thanks for posting. So they're at least numbered -- and all L.K. Avalon (at least the 4 posted to Atarimania so far). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 AtraX carts 6 and 13: OK, at least one is not L.K. Avalon (probably more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Here are some more (posted them to Allan, too). Notice different wiring on EPROM programmer. working.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Here are some more (posted them to Allan, too). Notice different wiring on EPROM programmer. Thanks, neat stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Also note that there, if you can imagine, copies of the AtraX carts also being circulated. I've never seen them with boxes or instructions. I have a couple. They are marked 'Atari' with a number . i.e. Atari 4 Weird games or knock-off's I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Also note that there, if you can imagine, copies of the AtraX carts also being circulated. You're talking about modern repros on Ebay? Any recent examples of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Thanks, neat stuff. Regarding thanks they should go to Gzynio for sharing #1 and #6 sets and Szwanke for all the dumps present in post #61. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Regarding thanks they should go to Gzynio for sharing #1 and #6 sets and Szwanke for all the dumps present in post #61. Alright, thanks to both of them and the delivery man. Assuming these are: Gzynio & Szwanke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Also note that there, if you can imagine, copies of the AtraX carts also being circulated. I've never seen them with boxes or instructions. I have a couple. They are marked 'Atari' with a number . i.e. Atari 4 Weird games or knock-off's I think. I think it's more likely that they're cartified versions of popular games from Polish software houses that were perhaps collated by AtraX (whatever that is). Does anyone have a ASF multicart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The Polish ATRAX carts did came with a BOX, see picture 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Alright, thanks to both of them and the delivery man. Assuming these are: Gzynio & Szwanke Yes they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) You're talking about modern repros on Ebay? Any recent examples of this? Well, I typically stay away from the SIC type carts, especially when they are over 64KB. And there are so many, relatively newer compared to the hey day of the 800/800XL, late 80's and 90's carts. If I remember a lot at 128KB. But there is a member here that has a lot of knowledge z1013. I've found that there are just as many copies as originals. Watch out for very clean labels, and white, etc. I've attached an example. edit: I heard swanke might be making them. Edited May 29, 2017 by Atari8bitCarts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) to me they look like compellation cartridges, similar to what Sunmark was doing. Using someone else's work and creating a multi-cart. these titles were produced by LK Avalon for the polish market originally I believe, and not on cartridge. early 90's. example: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-aurum_435.html Edited May 29, 2017 by Atari8bitCarts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutterminder Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Couldn't tell you. I was 17 and EPROMS were a *very* new thing to me. I distinctly remember, putting it in a little drawer, pushing a button, bright light glowing out of the drawer and a VERY hot chip/board having to be taken out of the drawer. You can guess as to why/why not. Not going to gainsay you, but there was light and it was hot. We had to take them out of the case and put them in the drawer to erase them. We may have plugged them in to a cart port to program them as I recall having to put them in different slots depending on what system the cart was for. End of story. Found $5 on the way home from work, too. It's all true. Except maybe the $5 part. It had to be UVEPROMs. All incandescent lights have a component of UV output. Most people here have probably seen black light bulbs which are just incandescent bulbs painted with a UV filter. It takes pretty strong UV light to erase UVEPROMs in under an hour. Our erasers use florescent UV lamps, and even they get pretty hot, but the boards don't get too hot to touch. If your eraser was getting that hot, maybe they used sun lamps? These were used for tanning, so they put out quite a bit of UV light, but they also put out a lot of heat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 to me they look like compellation cartridges, similar to what Sunmark was doing. Using someone else's work and creating a multi-cart. these titles were produced by LK Avalon for the polish market originally I believe, and not on cartridge. early 90's. example: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-aurum_435.html Yes, but why would they have credited the original software house if pirated? Maybe they were properly licensed. Mystery! And I've got to try 'Honky' this weekend. Somehow I doubt that it's a salient critique of society, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Yes, but why would they have credited the original software house if pirated? Maybe they were properly licensed. Mystery! Many knocked off titles after Atari came apart, especially in other countries. These were early 1990's, I had long moved on from Atari and cartridges I'm not sure if they were properly licensed, as there would be some sort of evidence of that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK_Avalon (unless someone has more information on them) These are like the Atari 400/800 Taiwan cartridges maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MacRorie Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 It had to be UVEPROMs. All incandescent lights have a component of UV output. Most people here have probably seen black light bulbs which are just incandescent bulbs painted with a UV filter. It takes pretty strong UV light to erase UVEPROMs in under an hour. Our erasers use florescent UV lamps, and even they get pretty hot, but the boards don't get too hot to touch. If your eraser was getting that hot, maybe they used sun lamps? These were used for tanning, so they put out quite a bit of UV light, but they also put out a lot of heat. Entirely possible. The whole unit was about the size of a KayPro luggable. Sat on a counter. If it was a sun lamp it would have been a compact one. It definitely only took about 5 minutes or so to erase them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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