+GoldenWheels Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Man I've opened up carts with actual rust on the contacts and the little grey eraser got EVERYTHING off. I've never had that fail to get anything to work. In my experience, if you didn't actually open up the cart to clean it, you didn't do much of anything however else you did it. I'll also say....I've gotten a bad brand new aftermarket connector (the plastic frame was actually not square), and then got an aftermarket connector which literally never fails. I tend to think a good new one beats one you boiled (I tried that too) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah98 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Anyone try the "Blinking Light Win"? I've heard good things about it and other than it being a very tight fit, it seems to be a good solution. I have one, and it is a must have. It's easy to install and fixes the bad design of the original. I couldn't repair my original connector, even with the boil trick, and the aftermarket ones never last. The BLW should be like standard issue for an nes. Much better than trying to buy a modded toploader! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 My replacement 72 pin works great. Still going strong. And surprisingly even without a game genie. Not all aftermarket ones are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Or is possible to make a right angle connector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDont00 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Thanks everyone. I might try a few of the suggestions and give cleaning my current connectors another try this weekend. If that fails I will probably try the blinking light win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Great but seriously how hard would it be to make a right angle connector. I mean essentially turn the toaster into a top loader. Granted I would have to cut a whole in the top of the case but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Not hard, it's a matter of finding a supplier of 36/72 pin card edge connector that has the right spacing and is angled to PCB. The NES board already have convenient solder spot when you remove the original NES connector so just wedge the new angled connector onto the edge and solder it on. You will need to build support under it so pushing the cart won't cause the connector to flex and snap off the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Great but seriously how hard would it be to make a right angle connector. I mean essentially turn the toaster into a top loader. Granted I would have to cut a whole in the top of the case but still. The original pin connector does have right angle on it. It starts out flat then right angles up and then right angles back forward again. If you want to tinker, cut the connector and solder it to a game genie connector or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 nice idea but I am not good with soldering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Sadly there is no straightforward solution to turn a toaster (I just noticed... why a toaster? A toaster take the bread from the TOP) into a toploader. you will need some soldering skills at a moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwj_chim Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 My NES was real bad. I could not get any games to work. I started opening up all of my games and cleaning them. All my games work first time every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverfleet Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I have a couple of front loader NES systems that I have messed with to make work better. For each one, I cut power to the 10NES lockout chip and installed a new 72 pin connector. When I reassembled them, for some reason the load tray didn't push down anymore, so essentially, you just put the cartridge straight in. Since the lockout chip is disabled, it works fine with the tray up. It works as well as my friend's top loader, and has better video output without extra modification. No need to hack the case up! Just clean the games, disable the lockout chip, make sure your connector is good, and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 When I reassembled them, for some reason the load tray didn't push down anymore, so essentially, you just put the cartridge straight in. You are reassembling the tray incorrectly. There is a plastic tab in the middle of the plastic tray that has to go under the main board. It wants to go above but you have to make it go below it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverfleet Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 You are reassembling the tray incorrectly. There is a plastic tab in the middle of the plastic tray that has to go under the main board. It wants to go above but you have to make it go below it. Yeah, I figured I was somehow reassembling it wrong. I'd go back and fix it, but being able to just shove the game in and have it work is good enough for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Well couldn't you could just cut the plastic and bend the pins in half like this? http://mvvg.blogspot.com/2016/05/nes72pin1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Well couldn't you could just cut the plastic and bend the pins in half like this? http://mvvg.blogspot.com/2016/05/nes72pin1.html If you mean and do nothing else....no. There would be no pressure to push the pins against the cart pins. I was saying to cut it there and then solder a game genie adapter to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I found one more solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qB_VnQHEXk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 And this. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/198455-the-nes-toaster-toploader/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I found one more solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qB_VnQHEXk That is truly awesome but I don't have the skill to do this even if I wanted to lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Sadly there is no straightforward solution to turn a toaster (I just noticed... why a toaster? A toaster take the bread from the TOP) into a toploader. you will need some soldering skills at a moment. Think toaster oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 That is truly awesome but I don't have the skill to do this even if I wanted to lol. I miss Thomas3120, he just up and quit youtube one day and didn't come back. He was such a great modder. He had mad skills and seemed like such a genuinely nice person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Think toaster oven. Oh. Hah, we have them here but I never saw someone using them to "toast". thanks for the explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/198455-the-nes-toaster-toploader/ But according to this link I found yesterday that I already mentioned. He did not solder he just bent the connector upright. So it should not be hard to make or 3d printer connectors right just like he made? Or like they made the blinking light win or what ever it was called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/198455-the-nes-toaster-toploader/ But according to this link I found yesterday that I already mentioned. He did not solder he just bent the connector upright. So it should not be hard to make or 3d printer connectors right just like he made? Or like they made the blinking light win or what ever it was called? What does that gain? That would be purely cosmetic. That will have zero difference over how well the pin connector contacts pins and plays games. Maybe we got off track along the way but I was under the impression this thread was about making the nes play games better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Well that is cosmetic. But if keep inserting and reinserting the games the pins wear out. But if I leave a game genie in and use that then the pins stay in place and don't wear out like my top loader which I shoved a genie into. Same for the toaster expect you can't leave the genie in. It comes out every time you take the game out. Except as in my video but that is ugly taping 2 genies together. This 2012 atariage mod by ATARITARD is so much better. It is upright so the genie stays in place and if it stops working you just remove it and add another genie. And the genie stays in place so the pins never wear out. The pins stay bent in one direction. So it always makes contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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