576XE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Resently I obtained from Steven BasicXE HW Replica. Does any one has a strange problem with BasicXE? It seems that it loads itself, then loads BASICXE.OSS and goes to Ready prompt. But the first Return pressing Lock Up keyboard absolutely! May be that different versions of BASICXE.OSS are the reason of fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodByteXL Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Resently I obtained from Steven BasicXE HW Replica. Does any one has a strange problem with BasicXE? It seems that it loads itself, then loads BASICXE.OSS and goes to Ready prompt. But the first Return pressing Lock Up keyboard absolutely! May be that different versions of BASICXE.OSS are the reason of fault? What kind of DOS? I have BXE V. 4.1 (real OSS cart) and extensions V. 4.11. It should do well under Atari DOS 2.5. Edited July 3, 2016 by GoodByteXL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hi GBXL! I've tried many versions of DOSes. Sorry, but I have only Atarimax BASIC XE V. 4.1 Replica... I tryed to probe 4.0 and 4.11 extensions but unsuccessfully. The starange thing appeared. I can load extensions in DOS 2.5 CP environment but it's RAM based DOS and thus can touch BXE/Ext memory. I tried BXE with DOS 2.5 but unsuccessfully. It locks kbd just only if i press Return... Then COLD... I can't be aware that my DOSes disks images are not patched in some Draconus Way! Best Regards, EZ Atari 130XE PAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodByteXL Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 ... I have only Atarimax BASIC XE V. 4.1 Replica... May be that this is the reason why it does not work properly. There are two possible issues: 1. Some 130XE machines seem to have problems in using MaxFlash carts. They get unstable and/or sometimes parts of the cart based software does not work. That's why I gave all my MaxFlash carts away and got rid off the three XE machines reacting that strange. 2. There might be other hardware extensions in the machine conflicting with the bank switching of OSS SuperCarts in page $D5. Read more about it here: http://home.arcor.de/walter.lojek/MyATARIHomepage/old_hp/OSS/OSS.HTM If you cannot have access to a real OSS super cart there is a clever solution to it. Reuse a XE super cart. The article about it was published with ABBUC magazine #101; it's in German of course. It works perfect. It's a solution developed by tfhh who is also active on AA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 Hi GBXL. Thank you for reply! Really, I'm not a programmer and I don' want to be... Thus it's not a problem for me but I've tried to use BasicXE and found that it's a VERY good BASIC interpreter. I know about TurboBasicXL (and tried to program in it's environment...) Really the ability to simulate some kind of Modularity and Structuring is a breakthrough in BASIC. IMHO. Anyway when I'll need to check something in programming I'll use emulator. Not a problem at all! EZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Hi 576XE, did you try: https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Basic%20XE ? Further, a final solution for ever is approaching in the near future... Stand by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi there luckybuck, What do you mean? Did me try BASICXE.OSS from the site or did me try BASIC XE at all? I tried both. Or do you mean OSS Basic XE 7.2 (universal) as the decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi 576XE, you asked for BASIC XE, not for BasicXE HW Replica. BASIC XE on the Wiki ist final including extension disk. Please see further the manual for specific problems. Please take into account, that BASIC XE is the only one, which uses the full(!) RAM, means 128K via the EXTEND command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 Hi there, luckyback! At first I must say that I'm not a programmer! Not At All! I never programmed and I'll never will program. My interest is an investigating of a way how they made this world AS THIS! You said that the main idea of BASIC XE is using of extended RAM... But I think that the main idea is to show programmers the idea of your direction in minding! Thus BASIC XE is Readable! and even TurboBASIC is NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Hi friends. py: Alas, poor Yorick! I realized that BASICXE.OSS while loaded refers to cart memory and IT MUST BE OSS CART!!! Yes! Another carts can load BasicXE BUT as they have another style of banking then BASICXE.OSS can not consult this right OSS-cart addresses. GOTO py: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Hi EZ, " You said that the main idea of BASIC XE is using of extended RAM... " No, it is just one(!) further feature, BASIC XE is the(!) most advanced BASIC in the 80's for Atari. Please take a look into the manual, which is on the Wiki, too. All your questions will be answered then. That is the main intention of the Wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 No luckybags, No Dear friend. I'd like to say that modern reincarnations of BASIX XE can not get perfect control above BASICXE.OSS thus lack of THE MOST it's features: Modularity and Structuring! (In Basic way of course!) There will no be Procedures (As in BASIC XL) There will no be Readability! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodByteXL Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'd like to say that modern reincarnations of BASIX XE can not get perfect control above BASICXE.OSS thus lack of THE MOST it's features: Modularity and Structuring! (In Basic way of course!) Can you please tell which banks are used by your replica? Or provide a CAR file for Altirra to check it? If it really cannot work together with the BASIC XE extensions then Atarimax needs to issue a fix for it. No, it is just one(!) further feature, BASIC XE is the(!) most advanced BASIC in the 80's for Atari. I wouldn't agree as it has quite some bugs which in 1985 could have been already deleted. E.g. does it the same miscalculations as BASIC XL and Atari BASIC Rev. A do. In 1983 these errors had already been fixed with Atari BASIC Rev. B. The DIR command in BASIC XL (1983) and Action! (1983) refer to "D:*.*" whereas in BASIC XE (1985) it is nailed down to "D1:*.*" which is awkward. Even Turbo-BASIC XL is more advanced and comes with compiler and runtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi there GoodByteXL! Someone said here that my replica is the known 1-mb Steven Flash cart and it's NOT compartible with OSS carts. Thus while BASICXE.OSS appeals to it's CART it just meet another banking style! The second part of your message can explain why BXE is not so popular. EZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodByteXL Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi there GoodByteXL! Someone said here that my replica is the known 1-mb Steven Flash cart and it's NOT compartible with OSS carts. Thus while BASICXE.OSS appeals to it's CART it just meet another banking style! The second part of your message can explain why BXE is not so popular. EZ If this is true and your cart was sold by Atarimax I'd ask him for a solution. What banking style please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi GBXL! Yes my cart is Stevens cart at first (and thus I now that cart is in perfect condition). Larry said me that It's normal Atarimax 1mb cart. I don't know how to check cartridge banking schema, sorry. What's the method? EZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi EZ, just stay tuned for a few weeks, all will come to an end. A good end, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Best wishes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/257021-oss-d-day-part-1-basic-xe-v42-cart-source-now-in-pd/ it is... Enjoy! :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gillman Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) On 7/7/2016 at 1:44 PM, 576XE said: Hi GBXL. Thank you for reply! Really, I'm not a programmer and I don' want to be... Thus it's not a problem for me but I've tried to use BasicXE and found that it's a VERY good BASIC interpreter. I know about TurboBasicXL (and tried to program in it's environment...) Really the ability to simulate some kind of Modularity and Structuring is a breakthrough in BASIC. IMHO. Anyway when I'll need to check something in programming I'll use emulator. Not a problem at all! EZ I've not been able to duplicate the extended memory in BasicXE to get more memory. I type extend and is says basicxe ready here is snapshot of it I get the same thing with Altirra Edited November 13, 2019 by Ray Gillman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 When it says XE Ready, you’re in extended mode, with 64K for the program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Try ?fre(1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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