+Larry Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I've been digging back through the old magazine PDF's and ATR's for checksum and other (Basic) debugging programs. If you did any typing of old programs from Antic, Analog, etc., which program did you like the best -- and of course, why did you prefer it? I liked Typo II from Antic, but the others were useful, also. There is one that I plan to type in called "KEYO" from the U.K. Monitor magazine that looks interesting. Any "typers" still out there? -Larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyvind Bernhardsen Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I preferred Compute!'s automatic proofreader because it was so unintrusive, just type the programs in as usual and check the checksum at the top of the screen. Typo III from New Atari User copied that user interface but generated checksums compatible with Antic's Typo II instead. Back in the day I used to use Turbo Typo II to type programs in from Antic, since it came in my first Antic magazine (June 1985). Of course, when you're typing programs in you don't get to choose the checksum generator, you just have to use whatever the magazine provides you with (if anything!). I remember _hating_ typing stuff in from Analog because of the checksum generator, but I can't remember the details of how it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji-Man Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Maybe assemble a disk image(s) of all the latest type-in assist programs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji-Man Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 So I went looking for some type-in helpers. I checked Analog #74 (from the Analog Magazine 2 DVD set) for M/L Editor (p64) and BASIC Editor II (pg. 70) and they are not on the disk images! These haven't been checked for errors or omissions. <grrr> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyvind Bernhardsen Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Apparently I was lucky with Analog too; I used Unicheck, which happened to be in my first issue of Analog (also June 1985! It seems like that was a good month for typo checkers). I always thought it strange that they didn't have the typo checker available in every issue like Compute! and Antic did. I'm pretty sure I still have the Automatic Proofreader, Turbo Typo II, Typo III and Unicheck. If I find them I can make an ATR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyvind Bernhardsen Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Here's a bootable DOS 2.5 disk (single density) containing the typo checkers I used. PROOF.BAS is Compute's Automatic Proofreader, TYPOIII.BAS works with Antic's listings, and UNICHECK.BAS creates the AUTORUN.SYS file for Analog's typo checker. typocheckers.atr TURBOTYP.BAS is included for completion; it's a speedier version of Antic's TYPO II, but TYPO III generates the same codes and is even faster, so you don't need both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyvind Bernhardsen Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Oops, looks like I posted an incomplete version of Unicheck. Here's a corrected image (I can't see any way to edit my previous post). typocheckers.atr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLund1 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I like S.W.A.T from SoftSide magazine. It was small, and I think it highlighted (inverse-video) the part of the line that was wrong. Plus the name was good - Software Weapon Against Typos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scitari Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I just did a post about checksum programs. I found a floppy disk in my collection which had a bunch of these on it including MLX from Compute! and TYPO and TYPO II. The ATR is attached to this post and posted to archive.org. MLXTYPO.ATR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champions_2002 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 There were two from the UK magazine Atari User called Get It Right I have attached version 1 & 1.2 below gir.bas gir12.bas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevymad Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I remember back in the 80s one of Analog's checksum programs would automatically print the next line number for you. The one I recently typed in does not. Anybody know the version that does the line numbers? Also in one Analog there was a program that reorganized part of the keyboard into a 10 key. I remember sticking masking tape corrections on my 400 keyboard for it, it was a huge help at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I liked Typo II. I converted it to python for my detokenizer so I can add it to any html listing I create. Here's a screengrab of a TBS file converted to html with indentation and typo checksums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Champions_2002 said: There were two from the UK magazine Atari User called Get It Right I have attached version 1 & 1.2 below gir.bas 3.47 kB · 1 download gir12.bas 3.92 kB · 1 download I remember that! You just typed in the listing and this would create a table of linenum / checksum pairs which you compared to the table in the mag. It felt more like actual programming than using Typo, you were on your own until you got to the end, it didn't check as you typed. Thanks for posting that I'd forgotten all about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I've tried to create a comprehensive wiki on type-in program checkers, so if you have any additions/corrections please let me know http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Error_detection_and_correction#Type-in_Program_Validation 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 Nice listing! I recognize most of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 @roshy There was one for Atari 8-bit in Computer Shopper magazine. If you do a search for "computer shopper" on this forum you will find it. Great list, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 58 minutes ago, Allan said: @roshy There was one for Atari 8-bit in Computer Shopper magazine. If you do a search for "computer shopper" on this forum you will find it. Great list, by the way. Thanks! Added entry for 'Program Perfect' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, Larry said: Nice listing! I recognize most of those. Thanks, still waiting for info on 'KEYO' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 PM sent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Larry said: PM sent! Thanks! Entry for KEYO added. Also added entries for Edytor BASICa and Generator kodów kontrolnych thanks to Kr0tki Edited September 8 by roshy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800XLNZ Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 There was also 'BUG-OUT' from 'Home Computer Magazine'. There were versions for Apple, Atari, Commodore, IBM and Texas Instruments. Also another version of Get It Right II! from Atari User July 1988 (v2.1), just some minor improvements from v2.0. Attached is an Atari disk image with BUG-OUT (Atari version) and Get It Right II! (v2.1). Atari_8-Bit_Proof-Readers[BUG-OUT][GIRIIV21].atr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshy Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, 800XLNZ said: There was also 'BUG-OUT' from 'Home Computer Magazine'. There were versions for Apple, Atari, Commodore, IBM and Texas Instruments. Also another version of Get It Right II! from Atari User July 1988 (v2.1), just some minor improvements from v2.0. Attached is an Atari disk image with BUG-OUT (Atari version) and Get It Right II! (v2.1). Atari_8-Bit_Proof-Readers[BUG-OUT][GIRIIV21].atr 90.02 kB · 1 download Added both, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bacardi Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Some more from the German magazines are missing: - Tip-Tab (from C.P.U. / Homecomputer) - Checksummer (from Computronic) - AMD (from Atari Magazin) - Ampel (from Happy Computer) all programs can be downloaded from http://ataribasiclistings.mygamesonline.org/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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