NML32 Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) In my case Sloopy didn't need to buy or make any boards since I sent him everything. I've told Sloopy that I would pay to have my stuff shipped back. Doesn't anyone think in 5 years he could have found enough time to finish and get my stuff back to me? Edited October 4, 2016 by NML32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Sad situation all around. I hope I am still into the Atari hobby 20 years from now, and this is all a forgotten memory. I think all will be well in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 In my case Sloopy didn't need to buy or make any boards since I sent him everything. I've told Sloopy that I would pay to have my stuff shipped back. Doesn't anyone think in 5 years he could have found enough time to finish and get my stuff back to me? I think it is absurd and being that long do you really expect anything back . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Sorry to hear NML32, sounds like you were well and truly taken to the cleaners... Its good we know all the facts and the fact it shows that all Sloopy had to do was simply do the work is a terrible issue that never needed to have happened... The more you see the more it seem to suggest that sloopy just gave up caring about the customers... As I said initially I can appreciate how people can get demolished by personal issues but the more you hear it simply sounds like Sloopy just gave up bothering... Sad and disgusting if true.... Sorry NML32, you have our best wishes... Paul... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I think it is absurd and being that long do you really expect anything back . Seems rather overly harsh...I'd never give up on getting something back if it was my gear....Why just ley people get away with stuff? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syn Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 With someone else I waited a year and a half for a project. That involved a natural disaster and the modder having to move. There's no excuse for five years without a coma being involved. Just a newb's two cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricortes Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I waited a year and a half for a project. That involved a natural disaster and the modder having to move. There's no excuse for five years without a coma being involved. Just a newb's two cents. True that, but sometimes people break in funny ways. One of my favorite analogies is why boxers have to quit boxing. They still have the skills, reflexes, and knowledge that should make them formidable in the ring, but they can no longer 'pull the trigger.' Pull the trigger is a euphemism for being able to throw a punch. I mean they understand perfectly what is called for but after being worn down by the slings and arrows of a career in the ring, they just can't get their brain to fire a punch. I see it a lot and in a lot of ways in my personal life. Sheesh! I'm not the man I used to be either. Simple stuff like building a fire during the winter has changed to turning on a heater. My older brother who used to restore ~dozen vintage cars/year is down to two/year and isn't taking on new projects because he knows he would have trouble finishing them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Hang on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 @Sloopy could you at least prove to me that you still have my equipment? 1-600XL 1-VBXE 2-Ultimate 1meg (I ordered two from Candle and had them both shipped to sloopy to save some money on shipping charges) Here's the important point. If he still has the parts (in some cases expensive and hard to get), then that is one thing. He can return them. If he sold them off, or used for himself, then that is an entirely different situation.... And on each of those, a different reaction is justified. One of course is appalling in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) I did get my gear back a little over a year or so ago. I had sent a 130xe, U1mb for installation and paid for a VBXE and its installation around November of 2011. It took several messages on here and me following him to Mirc but he did send back my original equipment. He also did a very nice job of installing the u1mb and pre-installing the connections for the vbxe when they get completed. I am in the same VBXE PM with Sloopy, NML32 and several others. NML32 and others have been asking for updates and get excuses, unfulfilled promises or no responses for months at a time. That is unacceptable. I hope NML32 is able to get his equipment back and anyone else who is in the same boat. I wish Sloopy well and hope he gets everything sorted out in his life. He does do very nice work and adds a definite value to the Atari community. Best regards Robert Edited October 6, 2016 by venom4728a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Seems rather overly harsh...I'd never give up on getting something back if it was my gear....Why just ley people get away with stuff? Well I guess I didn't quite mean give up . I meant it is absurd that he has kept it for that long with no contact nor did he comment about it on this thread . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Time for Sloopy to man up and complete what he can, return what he can't complete, and at least offer an explanation and apology for what he no longer has to return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Sloopy, I have also sent you a few PM and no response. Could you send me the part that you have which is mine (u1mb) ? Please , if you send it back i will pay you for the shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) @Blues76 I hope you have better luck than I've had with Sloopy. I've also asked for my stuff back or a picture proving he still has my stuff but he hasn't done either. He now ignores my PMs. Edited December 24, 2016 by NML32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Seems Sloopys intentions are now clear, the head has been buried in the sand and people are simply forgotten about.. So sad, its the opposite of the normal manner in here, people could not be more caring but looks like Sloopy has just done the cheap easy part and stuffed people. Cowardly.....At least return the parts if nothing else but to just write people off is cheap and nasty..I wonder if those 4 VBXE's he mentioned in his last post ever made their way out, if they didn't then its clear he cares nothing for those folk. Epically un Christmas like behaviour... Paul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 This reminds me of the swampfox thread . It is obvious that Sloopy is not holding up on his word . 5 years is a bunch of crap . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 True that, but sometimes people break in funny ways. One of my favorite analogies is why boxers have to quit boxing. They still have the skills, reflexes, and knowledge that should make them formidable in the ring, but they can no longer 'pull the trigger.' Pull the trigger is a euphemism for being able to throw a punch. I mean they understand perfectly what is called for but after being worn down by the slings and arrows of a career in the ring, they just can't get their brain to fire a punch. I see it a lot and in a lot of ways in my personal life. Sheesh! I'm not the man I used to be either. Simple stuff like building a fire during the winter has changed to turning on a heater. My older brother who used to restore ~dozen vintage cars/year is down to two/year and isn't taking on new projects because he knows he would have trouble finishing them. Just had a chance to read this. I had to read it few times to fully appreciate it. Words of wisdom. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just had a chance to read this. I had to read it few times to fully appreciate it. Words of wisdom. Thank you True as it may be, it doesn't change the fact. I don't want him to do mods anymore, just to send me the u1mb. It is probably gone but I have to try a bit more, at least to tell me myself that I tried. I think he probably lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) True as it may be, it doesn't change the fact. I don't want him to do mods anymore, just to send me the u1mb. It is probably gone but I have to try a bit more, at least to tell me myself that I tried. I think he probably lost it. I really don't think we should be expected to give up or loose our items and money. In my opinion, those types of comments could give Sloopy the impression he owes his customers nothing. Sloopy needs to man up and make good on his promises. Edited December 27, 2016 by NML32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I really don't think we should be expected to give up or loose our items and money. In my opinion, those types of comments could give Sloopy the impression he owes his customers nothing. Sloopy needs to man up and make good on his promises. See #39 above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliecron Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 You can probably find sloopy hanging out on irc. I think the channel is ##atari on newnet? I haven't been there in years, but he was always there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 He is nowhere to be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Maybe he's "hangin' on" somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Look, for some of you, it was a lot more. For me, it was one u1mb. Maybe sloopy is going thru some problems and he is not able to admit that he doesn't have the parts or the time. Is it possible that he lost the parts? Last time (in 2013) he was still looking for my part. I know some of you feel angry, which I did too, but I think is time to let it go. It is only one U1MB ... I had problems in my life before and I hope he is ok. I do hope he comeback to the forum and explains what's going. At the same time, I don't want to minimize the problem and I know some of you, he has a lot more than one U1MB, and given that is so hard to get equipment, and that money doesn't come easy, Maybe I will be angrier, but I want to let go. If I get it back, fine. I do hope he comes and explains to the rest what happened to their parts and explain to me where is my U1MB. Having said all of this, I'm not justifying his behavior, but at the same time, I'm not sure what else to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 It's hard for me to let go as I sent him my 600 XL, 2-VBXE, 1-U1meg, and money for the install. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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