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I've only just discovered that Atari max do a happy 1050 chip.

Are these any good , I remember my dad had one back in the 80s with a switch, he could turn it on happy or off.

As really tempted to order, just wanted some feedback off people that had fitted these . Does it have any issues loading floppies.

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Hi!

 

I was wondering the same. I asked Steven Tucker about the PCB, and it turns out there is not a physical switch possibility to enable/disable the happy. I'm also not sure whether this was possible with the original Happy. I am sure it was possible with the happy software to set the drive to unhappy. Certain titles do want a non-happy setting.

 

But before you start buying anything. Did you consider the Speedy. Check my other thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/257715-ah-finally-i-got-myself-a-mini-speedy/ about the Speedy. I read that tf_hh is producing new speedy which will be available soon in Abbuc shop.

 

Since 2 weeks or so I have a speedy in my 1050, and I am VERY pleased with it. It works excellent.

It does not have all the features the happy has. The happy has some features where you can copy protected disks etc. I'm not sure if that is something you need/want.

I don't... I was just needing a simple upgrade that would give me double density (180K) and high speed I/O.

 

The speedy simply does that, and VERY well I must say.

Give it a thought...

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Are there any English docs available for the Mini-Speedy (or will become available)? The OP is in Australia, so he may not read German. Google Translate is an alternative, but not a very good one.

 

Quite a few folks here have indicated that they have bought the AtariMax Happy clone. I have one and it works just like the original. $39.95 and free shipping (but probably not to Australia).

 

No, unless you have the optional Happy Controller mini-board/switches (or a clone), you cannot boot the Happy in slow mode. You must use the menu from the software to set the options -- "unHappy mode." A lesser-known feature of the Happy is that it can become an Archiver drive using the Kiwi Happy Archiver software.

 

You have likely seen this, but here is a link to more info and the Happy Docs.

 

http://www.atarimax.com/sio2pc/documentation/

 

-Larry

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I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations.

 

In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too.

 

Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity.

 

English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit.

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I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations.

 

In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too.

 

Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity.

 

English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit.

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I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations.

 

In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too.

 

Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity.

 

English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit.

Thanks for that I'll order a couple now wasn't sure how it worked.
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If you're not afraid of a bit of soldering get a MegaSpeedy instead of a Happy.

 

It works just like a Happy and also like ALL other hardware upgrades there ever were for the 1050.

 

The biggest advantage is the Speedy mode which boasts track buffers large enough to make your 1050 fly.

 

Also has multiple "fake" drives that you can program with f.i, your favorite DOS and Sector copier programs. These are loaded from the internal memory of the MegaSpeedy so extremely fast.

Be sure to run a modded OS to get the best SIO performance.

 

I still,do have another 1050 with Atarimax Happy and it does work fine.

 

The Happy has two advantages over the MegaSpeedy:

It's cheaper and there is no soldering required.

 

But IMHO the extra money and effort is definitely worth it if you like using your 1050 a lot :)

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I'm considering either an Atarimax Happy or a US Doubler for my 1050. I know the feature set of each, but I'm wondering how they compare in DD format used. Are DD disks produced with the USD readable on the Happy, and vice versa? Is one format inherently more robust than the other?

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Thanks for the feedback. The Happy upgrade does sound like the way to go, but I think I'll do a homebrew USD. I already have an 810 Archiver and an 810 Happy, which handle all my floppy backup needs. I can pick up the needed ram chip for $5 and reprogram the existing EPROM for the USD. I'll probably do the Happy mod when I pick up another 1050 in the future.

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Was the 1050 working well in its stock form? Having it in (Archiver) Chip mode should not affect anything, once it has powered down.  Did it successfully go into Chip mode?  That would suggest that the Happy clone is behaving normally.  BTW, there are lots of bad copies of 1050 Happy Archiver software floating around.  The bad ones appear to work until you try to make a disk copy -- then they fail. 

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I had a "Happy" drive, I found it would sometimes "hang" which persisted through power cycling

even if I left it for many minutes, when it did fire up, it worked really well, it just wouldn't boot,

I got so fed up with it I converted it to a US Doubler instead and that works fine.

I had a feeling it may be the ROM as I tested the SRAM chip and that was fine and these days who

really needs a Happy to copy anything.

 

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On 9/14/2021 at 9:50 AM, TGB1718 said:

I had a "Happy" drive, I found it would sometimes "hang" which persisted through power cycling

even if I left it for many minutes, when it did fire up, it worked really well, it just wouldn't boot,

 

It is not a firmware crash that persists power cycles. It's a failed power up that doesn't boot correctly. It happens with most original Happy 1050 boards from time to time. And when it happens it tends to happen a couple or more times in a row. I am curious exactly why. At one point I speculated that the ROM could power up in the "wrong" bank. But the ROM code seems to be ready to power up in either bank, at least in theory. It should be possible to trace the bus activity with a LA and see what's going on. But I was always a bit lazy to perform the test, especially considering that one might be too "lucky" and perform several power cycles with the instrument attached but always booting correctly.

 

You power up the 1050, but nothing happens. Power led turns on, but otherwise everything is dead. Of course it doesn't happen very often. Anybody with a non original Happy, Atarimax or whatever, experienced the same issue?

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19 hours ago, ijor said:

 

It is not a firmware crash that persists power cycles. It's a failed power up that doesn't boot correctly. It happens with most original Happy 1050 boards from time to time. And when it happens it tends to happen a couple or more times in a row. I am curious exactly why. At one point I speculated that the ROM could power up in the "wrong" bank. But the ROM code seems to be ready to power up in either bank, at least in theory. It should be possible to trace the bus activity with a LA and see what's going on. But I was always a bit lazy to perform the test, especially considering that one might be too "lucky" and perform several power cycles with the instrument attached but always booting correctly.

 

You power up the 1050, but nothing happens. Power led turns on, but otherwise everything is dead. Of course it doesn't happen very often. Anybody with a non original Happy, Atarimax or whatever, experienced the same issue?

Interesting.  I've had several Happy 810's and both genuine and clone 1050's, and have never seen this type behavior.  The closest I've seen is when I would cycle the power too quickly and get a lock-up. Powering down and waiting maybe 10-15 seconds always took care of the problem.  That Happy track buffer is really hard to beat! 

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