Mclaneinc Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I've found on my Atari HD a selection of files marked as car files with Williams) in brackets, but when I run them on Altirra it comes up and asks for the rom type which car files normally don't. I go through each rom type and they all crash. I thought maybe I have roms for a different Atari but apart from a few they all seem to be Atari titles with some like TOMMINGI (WILLIAMS) and Tube Baddies only being on the 8bit.. I presumed the Williams was the cart type and 64K which seemed to fit, the header just says CART. Sadly I have no clue as to where I got them, could anyone shed some light? Not tried them on the 7800 (just in case, no dice on 5200) Thanks Paul... Edit: After looking at one of the other carts in a hex editor it did seem to contain an Atari 8bit game in the code and its 6502, found text saying "Universal Hero converted to the Atari by" .... Weird, some offshoot format? Car.zip Edited November 2, 2016 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Here are the corrected files that work on any emulator enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi there, I think you forgot something Plus, what was the issue? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/242957-ultimate-cart-sd-multicart-info-bits/?p=3469517 This where some Williams files are.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Aha.....Those look the same...While going through the list some like Bruce Lee and Action biker work but almost everything else does not...Weird...My normal groups of cars work fine just almost all marked as Williams fail, Atari800Win Plus 4.1 says checksum error on the ones that fail.. A little lost as to why they are marked as williams and 64K yet were not that size or format before But at least I know the source, thank you... Thank you for looking.. Paul.. Edited November 2, 2016 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 they fail because of a bug in the BIN to CAR conversion utility, i converted this game to cartridge 15 years ago, here are the BIN file, they work on any emulator but require you to select the type manually Nir cart2.zip 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Thanks Nir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I understand that "Williams" is a cartridge format, but what are the origins of this format? k1w1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I keep seeing this repeat itself over and over... can we have a wiki or sticky that shows the bug free version numbers of everything.... time and time again the buggy converters and utils rear their ugly heads, doesn't matter if it is a cartridge, an atx, or a file transfer protocol... they just keep coming back.... I thank the core long time supporters of our beloved platform for remembering as well as correcting these issues but we are fighting a war of attrition as we do not live forever. An every bug every correction searchable database is in order! the cartridge format is described in depth at http://www.atarimax.com/jindroush.atari.org/ if I am not mistaken... in this section somewhere http://www.atarimax.com/jindroush.atari.org/acarts.html Edited November 2, 2016 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Thanks Doc, that explains the technical details of the memory banking but I am more interested in the history. Why are their so many home brew cartridges using this cartridge format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 And thanks to the explanation I and rdea6 can weed out those broken conversions from our collections, every little bit of space and loss of clutter counts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I have just removed the cart headers for them to run in Altrra using the Williams cart option. When I get time tomorrow I wil try and place an unbroken header on the files. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 I have just removed the cart headers for them to run in Altrra using the Williams cart option. When I get time tomorrow I wil try and place an unbroken header on the files. Thank you, that would be great... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 As promised. Here are the stripped and corrected files. There appear to be 2 bad files, "Encounter" and "World Soccer" but the rest run fine. I have also fixed up some file naming anomalies. k1w1 Williams Carts (Fixed).zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thank you K1W1, much appreciated! Paul.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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