Joe Stella Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-7800-POKEY-BOARD-With-BALLBLAZER-Final-Production-Pull-C026461-/141750046393?hash=item2100f60eb9:g:xi8AAOSwT6pV07lg To my untrained eye, I can't tell the difference between this and a shell-less ballblazer with a zif-socket. Production board, masked ROM. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 You are missing the ZIF socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stella Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know if you're being humorous or serious. Is this a legit WIP cart or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I asked about this back in April but no one responded. I don't know what a "final production pull" is supposed to be. If I had to guess, the board could be used to sample test incoming ROM chips prior to assembly. We would need to get input from someone who worked at Atari and is familiar with their quality procedures to get a real answer. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/251500-final-production-pull/?do=findComment&comment=3491290 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know if you're being humorous or serious. Is this a legit WIP cart or not? I am not sure what is funny about it, this board does not fit inside a shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 A bunch of these showed up on ebay probably about ten years ago. I bought one at the time, I think I paid around $20 for it. It is just a standard ballblazer cart with the ROM in a ZIF socket instead of being soldered to the board. A few of them also had a second ZIF socket where the invertor would go. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 A bunch of these showed up on ebay probably about ten years ago. I bought one at the time, I think I paid around $20 for it. It is just a standard ballblazer cart with the ROM in a ZIF socket instead of being soldered to the board. A few of them also had a second ZIF socket where the invertor would go. Mitch That is when I picked up a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIO2 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 So, offer $20 or build your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Yeah, you can just pull the ROM, put a ZIF in it and put the ROM into it. The only difference is that the ROM will have solder remains on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stella Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 I get a really weird feeling when the response is "what don't you get." It's a fair question, I think, considering the asking price. My first instinct is, it's a standard cart someone has soldered a zif socket onto, add some stickers and a "final production" title on it, and they're trying to pass it off as something special at a high price to the less informed. I asked my initial question to learn if this is false. I find your responses odd CPUWIZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I get a really weird feeling when the response is "what don't you get." It's a fair question, I think, considering the asking price. My first instinct is, it's a standard cart someone has soldered a zif socket onto, add some stickers and a "final production" title on it, and they're trying to pass it off as something special at a high price to the less informed. I asked my initial question to learn if this is false. I find your responses odd CPUWIZ. I find you not understanding what I say odd. A.) I bought one of these 10 years ago. B.) You can fake it, but the BallBlazer ROM would have solder residue on it. What is so hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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