AtariBrian Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I seen these on ebay and wondered what people think of these if anyone has them ? I don't own a Jaguar yet but am currently looking for one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) I got currently two normal controllers modded with rotary its really cool on Tempest 2000 which support two rotary's.I am thinking of modding a procontroller I have seen pictures of someone who had modded his procontroller but you need to cut some piece from the upper pcb and solder wires. So much harder to mod as a normal controller where is just enough space.There a three options to mod.1) replace d-pad with rotary2) rotary under d-pad and switch to switch between normal/rotary3) rotary on the backside and switch to switch between normal/rotaryI got both modded as option 2. Edited December 11, 2016 by TXG/MNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolaspersijn Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 https://m.facebook.com/RotaryControllers/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I seen these on ebay and wondered what people think of these if anyone has them ? I don't own a Jaguar yet but am currently looking for one . I bought one several years ago... I can't remember who made it, or what the "brand" was called... maybe Dragon or something named after a snake or something, I can't remember. But it works awesome. I use it on games like Tempest 2000 and Impulse-X. Basically, the one I have has a pentameter knob protruding through the "+" pad in an otherwise "factory-new" basic Jaguar controller. Totally worth it for some of those games, if you can find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have a Chaos Reins rotary. It is the same basic design as the one 82-T/A has. I love it. It instantly improved my score in T2k when I got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I got currently two normal controllers modded with rotary its really cool on Tempest 2000 which support two rotary's. I am thinking of modding a procontroller I have seen pictures of someone who had modded his procontroller but you need to cut some piece from the upper pcb and solder wires. So much harder to mod as a normal controller where is just enough space. There a three options to mod. 1) replace d-pad with rotary 2) rotary under d-pad and switch to switch between normal/rotary 3) rotary on the backside and switch to switch between normal/rotary I got both modded as option 2. There is another option that I find strange no one has tried after me. Which is to put the rotary on the right side, where it should be (",) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAYAman Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is another option that I find strange no one has tried after me. Which is to put the rotary on the right side, where it should be (",) I have several including an original Jedi Jeff with the large rotary on the right side. One of my prized possessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Does anyone have a wiring diagram? I want to make an small arcade controller using just the 3 buttons(maybe a 4th for pause if possible) and just a rotary controller. It will be used only for rotary games so I do not need the number pad, directional pad, etc. It should be an easy project, I am sure someone has made one. Any have a simple wiring diagram for something like this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVE 1 GAMES Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I love my rotary modded Jaguar controller. I got mine from Nick, it works really well with Tempest 2000, and Rebooteroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Does anyone have a wiring diagram? I want to make an small arcade controller using just the 3 buttons(maybe a 4th for pause if possible) and just a rotary controller. It will be used only for rotary games so I do not need the number pad, directional pad, etc. It should be an easy project, I am sure someone has made one. Any have a simple wiring diagram for something like this??? http://atariage.com/forums/topic/204759-dedicated-tempest-2000-controller-not-a-pad-modification/?p=2631145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) You can use the schematic for the full pad madman posted above, but it has a lot of stuff that's not necessary in your case. Here's an (untested) schematic that's simpler and should work: You need: - Four 4.7 kohm, 1/4W, 5% resistors (R1, R2, R3, R4) - Three 1N4148 diodes (D1, D2, D3) - One 74HC244 IC (U1) - Four switches (SW1, SW2, SW3, SW4) - One mechanical rotary encoder (SW5) - One cable with a 15-pin, high-density, male D-Sub connector on one end (P1) The cable can be one of those thin "cheap&nasty" VGA extension cables (do not use the thicker, more expensive ones: they use coax cables instead of wires, and do not connect all pins). You can also make it yourself by soldering a connector to a plain cable with 9 or more wires, but it's more work. The encoder should be a mechanical (not optical) one with three pins. If the rotary controls work backwards, swap the A and B wires on the encoder. Edited January 15, 2017 by Zerosquare 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Why not just hack a controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I like this one better. Can you do a schematic for that one Zerosquare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) danny_galaga > Like the rest of Jaguar hardware/software, controllers have gotten expensive. If you don't need all the buttons, building your own is cheaper. Shamus > I don't have any Genesis/Megadrive controller so I can't write a tutorial, sorry If the insides indeed look like this: then you can use the schematic above as long as you do a few things beforehand: - desolder all the parts on the PCB (C1, R1 to R9, IC1) - cut the traces where the orange lines are - scrape the green solder resist (use fine sandpaper) and solder a wire where each pink dot is Edited January 16, 2017 by Zerosquare 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Oh good point. I used to buy ten at a time from B & C, but it's been a while so I guess prices have moved way up north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Thanks for all the help Zerosquare. It looks beyond my skills so I may see if anyone will build either a Genesis Rotary or Simple arcade rotary for a price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 This one isn't mine (ebay link), but it is the exact same style of one that I have. For the life of me I can't remember who or where I bought it from, but I love it. Anyway, this is basically what I have: (and this one is cheap) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Rotary-Metal-Dial-Controller-For-Tempest-2000-T2K/281917040012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 This one isn't mine (ebay link), but it is the exact same style of one that I have. For the life of me I can't remember who or where I bought it from, but I love it. Anyway, this is basically what I have: (and this one is cheap) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Rotary-Metal-Dial-Controller-For-Tempest-2000-T2K/281917040012 I have a Chaos Reins rotary controller that is similar to that. It has been a fairly common solution over the years. I like mine a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I have a Chaos Reins rotary controller that is similar to that. It has been a fairly common solution over the years. I like mine a lot. That might be the one I have too. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? I seem to recall I paid like $79 for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 This one isn't mine (ebay link), but it is the exact same style of one that I have. For the life of me I can't remember who or where I bought it from, but I love it. Anyway, this is basically what I have: (and this one is cheap) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Rotary-Metal-Dial-Controller-For-Tempest-2000-T2K/281917040012 That is Nick's. It is a very good controller and Nick is a good guy. I finally figured out why I was having problems. We live in Colorado and in the winter it is extremely dry. I usually play on the floor(carpet) and the static electricity was causing problems with the metal rotary knob. I fried a couple controllers that way. I have since put on plastic knobs and I am hoping this fixes the problems. It is difficult(try impossible) to walk across the room without getting shocked so it is very dry here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 That might be the one I have too. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? I seem to recall I paid like $79 for it. It has been a long time but I remember it being in the $70 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I figured out why my rotary was acting up. My controller stopped working right. The rotary was not responding correctly. Either not spinning or spinning on it's own. Turns out it was static shock. We live in Colorado and it's very dry. The static electricity is crazy here, combined with a metal knob, well....it was not a good mix. Turns out the static shock was frying the 74HC244 chip on the controller board. It happened a few times to a few different controllers. I found a local shop that took out the old chip and tested it. It was bad. They put in a 20 pin socket and a new 74HC244 chip. The broken controller is now back to life!!! I am hoping the switch to a plastic knob will stop the problem, but just in case, I am keeping a few 74HC244 chips in reserve. I might be the only one who has a metal knob on their rotary and lives in a dry place, but I wanted to post this fix/repair. Just a heads up..... Thanks again Zerosquare for suggesting the 74HC244 chip!!!!!!!!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Glad I could help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 danny_galaga > Like the rest of Jaguar hardware/software, controllers have gotten expensive. If you don't need all the buttons, building your own is cheaper. Shamus > I don't have any Genesis/Megadrive controller so I can't write a tutorial, sorry If the insides indeed look like this: gen_diagram1.jpg then you can use the schematic above as long as you do a few things beforehand: - desolder all the parts on the PCB (C1, R1 to R9, IC1) - cut the traces where the orange lines are - scrape the green solder resist (use fine sandpaper) and solder a wire where each pink dot is Just looked at B & C. They still have used controllers for $14.95. So I go back to my original statement- why not just hack a jaguar controller? (",) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Just looked at B & C. They still have used controllers for $14.95. So I go back to my original statement- why not just hack a jaguar controller? (",) I bought a few new Jag controllers and had 20 pin sockets put in so if you ever have static shock or a chip fail(74HC244 chip), you can just slide in another. Put in the rotary on the D-pad, feels the most natural and comfortable for me. These are professionally soldered. If anyone wants one, I might have one or two extras for sale. Extremely nice controllers, very responsive. I immediately beat my old high-score (134,230 on Skirmish) with the new controller. Edited February 3, 2017 by Machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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