+mytek Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I just figured out how to do a cut-away view in TinkerCad, and thought it might be interesting to post the result... It's actually very easy to do. You make a block in whatever size that suits what you wish to cut-away, make it into a 'hole', move it over your model, and then group the entire thing. - Michael 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So, do we have any feel at all about how much the finished product might cost? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) So, do we have any feel at all about how much the finished product might cost? Thanks! Too early to know what the total cost would be for all of the components, since I still need to work up a BOM and then price the individual pieces out, but for the 4-layer PCB assuming you were to go with the standard set-up (1 oz copper, green solder mask, white silkscreen, and 1.6 mm thickness) it would be $17. To get that price, would only require an order of 5 pieces which is the smallest order accepted (total price = $86 for 5 pieces). And for an extra $8 for DHL shipping, you would get these in no more than 5 days. This was quoted through ALLPCB.com for the un-routed board, but with all power planes connected. I don't think the price will change much with the traces routed. Actually the funny part is that the PCB will be one of the cheaper components in this project. - Michael EDIT: Since you might have been referring to the Cart Tunnel cost, that is $30 from i.materialise to my door. Made from Polyamide (Dyed black). Edited March 5, 2017 by mytekcontrols 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I can't wait to see a finished unit. I'm dying to put one of these together myself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 I can't wait to see a finished unit. I'm dying to put one of these together myself. You'll get your chance not too far down the road My intentions are to finish verification of form and fit within 1 week, and then start the trace routing. I'm thinking that'll take roughly 2 weeks in between other obligations, and then about 1 week following that to have the first run boards in my hands. Add another week or two for assembly and testing. So its looking like 5-6 weeks before preliminary release to a couple of beta testers. All together 2 months to final release to everyone. By that time we should already have some beginning traction on setting up a pre-order and mass buy (that'll get handled by someone other than me). - Michael 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 I do believe I now have the PCB color adjust and oscillator sections all sorted out at this time . I changed the color adjustment to an open frame trim pot which is a little bigger and also less expensive than what I had before. I also moved the primary oscillator section over to the left side with crystal X1 now being accessible even with a VBXE or Sophia board in place. Crystal X1 will also be socketed, thus allowing for a change from a PAL to NTSC crystal, or vice versa (the crystal socket can be made from a cut section of a machine pin DIP or SIP socket). - Michael 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Sometimes I don't know my left from my right. On that previous post I meant to say "I also moved the primary oscillator section over to the right side with crystal X1 now being accessible". - Michael 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 So what we are seeing here is that this isn't a one size fits all situation. But with some adaption and the numerous choices that are available in Mini-ITX cases, it will certainly yeild some very interesting outcomes. Only limited by one's imagination. Welcome to the world of DIY. - Michael That means I can still cross my fingers for a 1088XEL that looks likes this 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Kavik If board will be here I can do such design in FreeCAD for those who have 3D printers... Edited March 7, 2017 by Matej 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thgill Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I soooo can't wait to build one of these up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentarian Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I was thinking about a case like this: although I'd have to rename it the 5200XL. (No, I would never harm a working 5200, but there are plenty of dead/as-is models available on Ebay. Plus, GTIA/ANTIC/POKEY and probably more components could be used to populate the 1088XEL board.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) I gave a 'like' to the above post because of the re-use of chips from the 5200. Personally, I prefer the case in Kavik's post #258. Edit: wording. Edited March 8, 2017 by Kyle22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) I see everyone is thinking outside of the 'box' I like what I'm seeing, and as I mentioned before it'll be very cool to see all of the variations to enclose this new motherboard. Lot's of choices for sure! I think my favorite for the moment is the one that Kavik posted (I'm in full agreement with Kyle on this one). That is so friggin bad ass wicked looking - Michael EDIT: It really would lend itself very well to the Mini-ITX motherboard form factor, with most all of the ports coming out the back. And since the joysticks have the flexibility to go anywhere, I think low and out the front would make sense for those. Edited March 8, 2017 by mytekcontrols 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That is so friggin bad ass wicked looking See more of it here: Atari console concept 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) See more of it here: Atari console concept Very nice! Too bad it wasn't a reality Speaking of reality... The trace routing has begun... I got most of the bottom half done, but still need to route the chip selects and various handshake signals. The analog video section to the right is 98% complete, just missing the routing of the color signal up to the UAV and the RGB-THRU signals to the DIN-13 video connector on the back side. When I get everything electrically connected, then I'll go back in and tweak trace spacing and fine tune the paths. I'll be ready for that cool looking Atari concept enclosure pretty soon - Michael Edited March 8, 2017 by mytekcontrols 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Very much looking forward to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Very nice! Too bad it wasn't a reality Speaking of reality... as "bad" as it is, that thing would be a dust nightmare. I'd prefer something stylish, but practical too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Speaking of reality... as "bad" as it is, that thing would be a dust nightmare. I'd prefer something stylish, but practical too. Meh - vacuum with a duster attachment or a can of compressed air. Surely you are not the type to not buy a gloss black car because it is hard to keep shiny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Meh - vacuum with a duster attachment or a can of compressed air. Surely you are not the type to not buy a gloss black car because it is hard to keep shiny? I prefer satin, and it's not too gloss anyway. But that's not the issue, it's all those fins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) This quote is taken from the FPGA based Mini-ITX Clone topic... Yes are there for the better support of pcb, and if you ask me, even those isn't enough! The 4 basic support holes are just to keep pcb in place. The owner must add plastic spacers in bottom side, using a bolt in top. On the revised board I have add 9 more, especially near the IDC connectors who someone must press to fit. Support holes is a must against the bend of pcb, with any evil consequence can cause this!I have read the thread of your excellent project for the Atari XL, and I propose to think seriously except the holes to go with 2mm pcb thickness. -- I think santosp gives good advice with the idea of going with 2mm vs 1.6mm PCB board thickness. So I re-quoted with ALLPCB based on a 2mm board thickness this time. If the board quantity is moved from 5 to 10 pieces, it still yields a per board cost of just over $17 (this price includes the shipping charge). And I can also get my choice of color and lead-free as well... all for that same price. I had almost the exact same thing produced for another client a while back, and it looked great without any problems (except it was a 2-layer board). - Michael Edited March 8, 2017 by mytekcontrols 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looney bin jim Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Awesome work dude, keep it up!! Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Slowly but surely the traces route ... - Michael 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 See more of it here: Atari console concept Makes me realize how ugly the Jaguar was. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+S.D.W. Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 This looks really cool, would love to put one of these together someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Slowly but surely the traces route ... - Michael I´m just curious... wha´s for an PCB layout program you´re using? Jurgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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