AtariNerd Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Laying the connectors flat like that and mounting them on their own separate board, makes sure the system can take a fair amount of abuse. Much simpler (and less costly! ) to replace an interface board than the whole MB for most end users, who might not be so skill-ful with the iron. As much as I like using original chips, within a few years, as original chip stocks start to dwindle (and in most cases those will be used to repair original systems, if they can), this is where many future users will be at , that want to use physical hardware. I haven't used foft's core implementation, so I can't speak to compatibility, but I've heard of good results. I'm just happy for this flurry of forward movement with these alternatives and will stick my toe into the pond. I haven't personally had working hardware for awhile - well, I do, but my choice working system has a bad GTIA chip that I will eventually try to farm it out for repair, or it might find a shelf up with my venerable 800 (has cased OS and RAM boards and buzzes with a good deal of picture interference - afraid it's going to blow, or - something. Yeah, I know, remove the cases, idiot. ) , as I use the alternatives for a "daily user". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I'll post pics as soon as mine arrives. It's in the post Of course you got one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Laying the connectors flat like that and mounting them on their own separate board, makes sure the system can take a fair amount of abuse. Much simpler (and less costly! ) to replace an interface board than the whole MB for most end users, who might not be so skill-ful with the iron. I totally like the idea now that I properly understand it. It just threw me at first until I realized that it stuck out in the back so that the connectors were accessible. Great stuff - Michael 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Of course you got one I was asked if I wanted to test one - how could I say no? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I totally like the idea now that I properly understand it. It just threw me at first until I realized that it stuck out in the back so that the connectors were accessible. Great stuff - Michael I know we were teasing you about creating new form-factors for existing motherboards to serve as replacements, but, one thing that's nice about the 1088XEL, is that the current foot-print is small enough, now, that with a few slight changes, say replacing some of the dedicated ports with headers, instead, one can create something that CAN fit within all existing cases, using legacy hard-ware. Just need a little creative tinkering - and some custom/creative cabling +plus maybe some connector strip boards, if needed. Thank you for being gracious enough to release it as open project that others may build on. You, or likely some other enterprising folk in the community will run with that after the initial release and we will see a pluraltude of useful, zany funk. One thing I noticed while looking closely at the 1200XL, as it came up in recent discussions, is how close the 1088 is actually to working in that design, already - the close approximation of the cart connector and the SIO / Power connectors, with a little kludging and swapping of connector positions, probably achievable through small, nearby break-out boards, could be made to work. (Simplest way would be to cut some perf-board to the shape of the system MB you want to replace, position the 1088XEL to best fit for the situation and mount the connectors where need be. Heck, even I might be able to do that.) Anyways, fun stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Show a movie how Eclaire works I was planning to do this tonight, but PBI is (finally!) almost working! Once that works I'll do a video... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Last moment it turned out to be available one more board from the new batch. If someone want to buy it, contact me within p.m. Cost is 240$ + shipping. Sold now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenames99 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 crap! I just missed out. will another run be done in the future? I mean before final production run. foft, looking forward to that video. at 240$ is that assembled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Firedawg Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I would have loved to jump in on this opportunity, and give my newly assembled reflow oven some work! Just juggling too much at the moment unfortunately. I'm just glad we have a lot of interest with this project and the 1088XEL. Both projects deserve our support. Keep the updates coming;--) Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) crap! I just missed out. will another run be done in the future? I mean before final production run. foft, looking forward to that video. at 240$ is that assembled? Really I don't know if any final production will be done. Maybe individual efforts from me and why not, from anyone else which can do it. In 240$ who is the actual cost of parts/PCB and factory assembly work for main board only at this moment, yes is assembled and tested. Of course the use of BGA ic, 0602 smd size components, and some 0.2mm fine pitch ic's, is another reason for which this board is required to be assembled. Edited May 24, 2017 by santosp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npturton Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Fantastic project Panos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Are you planning to adopt other cores than Atari, like MiST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 No, but of course someone else could. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Looks really wicked: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Fantastic project Panos Thank you Nigel. Excellence also they go to Mark and the rest of development team. Are you planning to adopt other cores than Atari, like MiST? Although this board designed exclusively for the Atari 8-bit computers, looking at it now from another angle, YES with a so powerful hardware this is a great idea! Edited June 1, 2017 by santosp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Although this board designed exclusively for the Atari 8-bit computers, looking at it now from another angle, YES with a so powerful hardware this is a great idea! With this daughter board design, every platform can have its own connectors, opening the possibility to use original peripherals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just received mine an hour ago. Hoping to power it up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just received mine an hour ago. Hoping to power it up soon.You really should log into the site with the details, or it might be hard to do! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Nir made a great initial video. Many thanks Nir - though maybe set the monitor to 4:3 next time :-) : Edited June 1, 2017 by foft 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 You really should log into the site with the details, or it might be hard to do! Yeah - I saw his video yesterday, and he was on the IRC channel helping me get it set up. I need to flash the new core, but I may have to buy a USB blaster. I have a Xilinx Platform Cable USB, but the software doesn't seem to be able to do anything with a jic file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Really liking what I am seeing so far. I've tried some covox stuff (NeoTracker). FlickerTerm displays properly. RIP images work, so I see we have the proper GTIA10 pixel shift. BugBiter's image viewer works great - boy do the images look good. Atari Control Picture also displays perfectly fine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 here is another video showing the board connected to different peripherals... 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I noticed that your MyIDE ][ worked fine on version 2 board, but on my version 1 EclaireXL that the Fat32 portion of the test show nothing but scrambled text for the file names and could not load anything from the Fatloader. the other functions of the MyIDE ][ menu did okay just not the Fat32 loader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Nir I see in your video that you have use only the 4 from the 6 spacers for the sub board. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 having seen Nir's YT video, this is very impressive stuff will this be compatible with IDE Plus 2.0? and cheeky question - is this likely to be produced in quantity and general sale? if so, would love one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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