Room 34 Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 Ben, I think you have the names of the games mixed up in your correction. The silver (now white) A at 21,24 is in RIVERRAID horizontally. The green (now silver) A at 19,19 is in KABOBBER diagonally. The fact that those colors are going to matter late in the game is calling my whole strategy from this point forward into question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 17, 2003 Author Share Posted May 17, 2003 Room 34, Thanks. I've corrected my description of the correction. The puzzle itself, however, was not in need of further correction. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 Yeah... I was just saying that for others like me who are working with their own tweaked-out Photoshop version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 OOH! OOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 Well, as long as I've got Photoshop open again... Carl Wonders - No. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Shoot. I'm totally stuck. Here's a link to a text file that shows where I'm at now. I think the answer that's there is correct, I just have no idea where to go next. I didn't want to post it here, in case someone's still working on this part. A question though, for Ben - do you have a whole slew of clues backed up that you're going to give us in order, or do you make them up as we get stuck? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hmmm.... "THE DIAMOND RING" anagrams to "A HIDDEN GRIN TOM". It looks like you've identified the bogus clue, huh? Well done! I expected Thomas would be the one to figure it out. Oh, well. The White Letters are Everywhere! Ben I am beginning to wonder if Ben misled us with this... is that REALLY the bogus clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Nathan, You're on to something with your decipher of the anagram. Just experiment a bit and you'll probably figure out the next step. *Whew* I still have some breathing room. But we haven't heard from Thomas for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 My brain hurts. I'm going to take a break from this. (Good thing I don't have much else to do this weekend.) Time, I think, for another episode of... Carl Wonders - No. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I dig the "split screen" action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 OK... I've gotten far enough that Ben's correction of the color of the two A's makes a difference. In other words, I've figured out, at least partially, the significance of the silver letters. As with the green letters, it was a case where once I figured out the significance, it was unmistakably "right." (Although I admit my understanding of the silver letters may only PARTIALLY encompass their full meaning.) I still don't know what the gold letters are for. Once again I am at an impasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Yes, I'm spending way too much time on this. But as long as the baby's sleeping, I can manage it! Anyway... Just another thought, as we've been trying to work out possible anagrams of the gold letters in the puzzle, and some have worked out ways to use the gold letters to fill in the blanks in one of the clues given at the start of the puzzle: I think the puzzle is self-contained. I don't think anything within the puzzle itself is going to solve something from OUTSIDE of the puzzle, i.e. those clues. If Ben's working the way he did with the Mystery of the Map contest, then everything within the puzzle itself is self-contained, and in theory the puzzle could be solved without even knowing any of the external clues exist. The meaning of the green letters was entirely self-contained, and if I fully understand the silver letters, the same applies to them, so I can only guess it's the same with the gold letters. I think if someone can determine what the gold letters spell out, it will probably be another clue in itself. Or, the gold letters MAY be the only true "filler" letters in the puzzle, so Ben deliberately put them in alphabetical order to make them stand out that way. (This is the theory I am currently working on, but I'm still grasping for an explanation...) Ben, how long does it take you to put these things together? Is it as long as it takes to solve them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Revised list: Lost Caverns swamp ladder three lives shortcut Explorers Club fire ant piranha golden rope twenty minutes treasure silver bar red cross electric eel grin (?) crocodile Quickclaw cobra Raj diamond basket quicksand jungle pads (?) balloon Rhonda I'm confident this is the complete list, although I'm unsure of the two words with question marks. (I'm sure those two words need to exist, I'm just not sure they're the RIGHT two words.) If you know how I found these, congratulations. If not, good luck! If you're ahead of me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 But we haven't heard from Thomas for a while. I am very busy this weekend, so don't expect much progress on my side. And you are far ahead of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I hope someone solves this thing pretty soon - I'm running out of adventure game characters... Carl Wonders - No. 6 ... and frogs, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 But wait, where's Rhindle the Red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Ahhh... I half get-it now. Revised list: Thanks for the list. That should help me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Uh-oh... time for me to re-focus and finish this thing! (Yeah, right!) Anybody have a hint for how to actually get "the question"? I've peeled away several layers in this puzzle now and I still have no sense of getting to the heart of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 By the way, has anybody done anything with the map for level 2 of Pitfall II? I've been messing around with a hunch on it since Friday but so far that's not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 More anagram fun... I have learned to dissect Ben's stories about the Mystic, Harry Jr. and Anna Graham for anagrams. (Anna Graham, get it?) I found a couple of phrases in the first of those stories interesting, and since both had 14 letters, I decided to work on them. They are: THE WOODEN CRATE THUNDEROUS BOOM From the first phrase I got: A CODE From the second, I got: THE BONUS ROOM From the leftovers of both, I got: UNDER THE TWO I'm not sure if this was intentional or if there's any value to it. All I know is that working on Ben's puzzles has certainly improved my anagrammatical abilities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Sleep deprivation... I noticed that the gold letters ALMOST work out to a phrase that would reinforce my idea that those letters aren't used in the final question. If there were one less O and one more T, you could spell out: THESE ARE NOT WORTH ANY TIME But like I said, you need another T and one less O. So it's a worthless anagram. (Just like the gold letters themselves? OK, I'm reading WAY too much into this now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 By the way, has anybody done anything with the map for level 2 of Pitfall II? Yes, I had the same idea, since the both maps have (about) the same size. I've been messing around with a hunch on it since Friday but so far that's not going anywhere. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Made some progress. I've put up an HTML file with what I've got. It has more info in it now, so if you don't want to read that kind of thing, then don't click this link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 18, 2003 Author Share Posted May 18, 2003 When the mystic returned from his movie, he found Harry and Anna staring down at the floor, lost in thought. The scrap of paper he'd left for them was nowhere to be found. In fact, the entire room had been completey stripped of furniture! A 30x30 square foot space on the floor had been cleared, and stencilled onto the tiles of the floor was a letter-for-letter replica of the puzzle he had left for them. "Oh, this is great fun!" the mystic exclaimed. Anna and Harry watched with intense curiosity as the mystic hopped about from one letter tile to another. "Anna, did you notice how the mystic never jumps on adjacent tiles?" "I did indeed," Anna nodded. "I also noticed how he NEVER lands on a tile marked with a gold letter." Harry knew that if he asked the mystic point blank the odds he'd get a straight answer were zero, but he couldn't help himself. "Is there a clue to be found in the gold letters or not?" The mystic froze where he stood. He folded his arms and glared up at Harry in silence for the longest time. Finally, he unfolded his arms and smiled. "You're exactly half right," he said, "about a clue in gold." Anna was baffled. "You mean . . .there is more?" she asked. At that, they mystic fell to his knees onto the silver letter where he had stood and folded over into laughter. "You only know the half of it!" he managed between gasps for breath. "You only know the half of it!" Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 AARGH! I KNEW IT! But I'm still not getting it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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