seastalker Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I have a 800xl, MIST, and C64 with cables to end with scart, then a scart female to 9 pin RGB (and stereo cables) to connect my old CRT Commodore monitors. Only issue is my RGB cable is male and I have two monitors - one with male pin in and one with female, so I can only use the latter. The easiest fix would be a small RGB female/female adapter for the other monitor so I don't need more cables. CANT FIND ANY ON EBAY/AMAZON/retro shops online! I see similar 9pin adapters on Amazon but they state for serial or Null modem and unsure if they'd work. Attached is a pic SIMILAR to what I'm looking for. Anyone have a surefire solution or link? Thanks! Edited June 22, 2017 by seastalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) ebay search for "db9 gender changer" finds lots of cheap results edit: they will work for serial or video, as the pinout is not changed by a gender changer... Edited June 22, 2017 by Nezgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I was hoping there was no magic between the pins preventing me from using that! Thanks. So either of these will work: LINK or LINK ? EDIT: Your search term does show similar on ebay. Some even 75 cents with free shipping (don't even get how that is possible!!) Edited June 22, 2017 by seastalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) No, your two links are for NULL MODEM adapters, which swap the RTS/CTS and RX/TX pins. You want something like this on amazon, or this on ebay. Edited June 22, 2017 by Nezgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Many Many thanks! I had already ordered the wrong thing weeks ago. Looking forward to this one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 Arrgh. Just tested my first monitor with the correct gender input. No video whatsoever when switching to RGB input. I'm not expecting full RGB signal from an at best a S-video signal coming through scart, I did think I'd see SOME image though. We will see what happens with the MIST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The 800XL at least (or any atari 8-bit computer) does not natively output direct RGB, only Composite, Luma and Chroma. I don't think Bryan's UAV board does RGB, just better Composite, Luma and Chroma, but the VBXE ugprade board definitely will, but thats a significant mod... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 I think I incorrectly assumed: though it wouldn't be output as RGB (or upscaled), I would get the best (or great, or ANY) Composite or S-Video signal out of the Scart cable. I also just tried my MIST computer, set to scandoubler=1 and can't even get the main menu core to show up, let alone any cores that support 15kh. Maybe my RGB mode on this monitor is just plain broken. Guess I'll wait for my adapter to come in and try this again on my other monitor. I am losing all faith in this RGB stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'm from Canada and we don't use SCART, but from what I know it's just a passive connector. It has pins for all kinds of types of video, but any particular device may use one or some subset of them. If your monitor does only RGB, you'll still need something to convert another type of video source to that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have a Commodore 1084S and 1902 monitor which have S-video via chroma/luma inputs and RGB. The chroma/luma has been working fine unless I'm seeing Composite only from my C64 and 800xl without knowing it. I can't see why the monitors would function with one input but not in RGB mode. I bought the following setup to work with both monitors: PHILIPS CM8833 MKII RGB MONITOR TO SCART ADAPTER CABLE Your linked Amazon gender changer item for the 1902 monitor to also work with this cable (haven't received adapter yet) The above would plug into the back of the monitors to allow input from: From http://www.retrocomputershack.com/I bought a Commodore CBVS A/V cable that is 5 pin to male scart Lotharek's RGB output cable for MIST Toggling to the RGB input provides a black screen on the 1084s when using the 800xl and C64 with the retroshack cable- same result with Lotharek cable with MIST with scandoubler=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seastalker Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 This is SUCH BS. What is one to do to actually get this RGB nonsense up and running? Got my new adapter in the mail today and nothing works (no fault of Nezgar- I DO appreciate the help). I have purchased THREE cheap Chinese Scart to HDMI converters. TWO didn't work at all and one "works" with major electrical buzz noise rendering it useless. I bought all the gear mentioned in the last post, and female to female RCA audio converters, etc. NOT ONE CONFIGURATION WORKS! Neither Commodore monitor's RGB works with the MIST with scandoubler=0 on multiple cores. My C64 and Atari 800xl show NOTHING when connected by scart to hdmi nor my new female scart-> to Commodore monitor cable. Not even Composite/S-video through SCART. I think I must finally give up on this RGB crap. I'm sure its great for others. No way I'm risking buying a Framemeister and PVM monitor when the basics just don't work for me. I'm no noob at advanced computing and have some soldering skills. So frustrated at the wasted time and money right now. I sense a fire sale coming soon. Thanks to anyone who read this rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I would try to stick with a direct connection from the Atari to the RCA jacks on the monitors for Composite/Luma/Chroma/Audio. A cable like this breaks out those 4 signals from an Atari 8-bit or Commodore 64. I think both the commodore 1084 and 1902 monitors have direct RCA jacks for that. All this converting youre doing between Composite/SVideo>Scart>RGB seems too complicated to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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