Jump to content
IGNORED

Back to Montezuma's Revenge...


DavidMil
 Share

Recommended Posts

I've downloaded the program twice from Atari Mania, and both times I find the same bug. I'm running it on my 800 and

every time I go through a single red door on one of the lower levels the game glitches and I loose everything I am carrying.

There is a large lava pool and no way to get across it in this room. However the rest of the level is still lite up. If any one

would like I can post a couple of pictures of the room with the door and the room after it.

I many try this on my 130 XE to see if the problem replicates there too. Anyone else having this problem?

 

DavidMil

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yep, pictures would help here.

 

Besides, there are two versions of Montezuma, the older 48k version (approx. 37k filelength) and the newer 16k version. The older version has a title-screen and title-music, but it cannot be finished, since you cannot beat Montezuma; afaik this older version also has some other bugs and flaws... (thats why I personally prefer the newer 16k version)...

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's a known bug - they mention it on DigitPress. On the map, see the leftmost room at the 2nd level from the bottom.

 

It exists in the Parker Bros. prototype cartridge as well as in the UK Databyte tape release, but in the US disk releases by Parker Bros. or BCI Software this room works correctly.

 

There's also another difference - the cartridge and tape versions do not play any sound when the sword is used. In the disk versions, the sound plays correctly.

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Besides, there are two versions of Montezuma, the older 48k version (approx. 37k filelength) and the newer 16k version. The older version has a title-screen and title-music, but it cannot be finished, since you cannot beat Montezuma

 

I like this version the best and consider it finished if you can get all the way to Montezuma. Then you only need to power off or press RESET key.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's a known bug - they mention it on DigitPress. On the map, see the leftmost room at the 2nd level from the bottom.

 

It exists in the Parker Bros. prototype cartridge as well as in the UK Databyte tape release, but in the US disk releases by Parker Bros. or BCI Software this room works correctly.

 

There's also another difference - the cartridge and tape versions do not play any sound when the sword is used. In the disk versions, the sound plays correctly.

 

Thanks so much for the info. The version I downloaded from Atari Mania doesn't have any intro, you just appear at the beginning screen.

One of these days I may get around to taking a screen shot of every room and making a booklet out of it. Now that we are retired, my wife

seems to think that I've become her personal servant. I had more time of my own when we both worked! (A word of warning to you guys

thinking about retiring!) And remember: It is a scientific fact that married men live longer than single men. So guys, if you want a slow death...

 

DavidMil

Edited by DavidMil
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well,

 

Montezuma version without intro = newer 16k version, look here:

http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-montezuma-s-revenge_6762.html

 

Montezuma version with intro = older 48k version, look here:

http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-montezuma-s-revenge_14310.html

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks so much for the info. The version I downloaded from Atari Mania doesn't have any intro, you just appear at the beginning screen.

Yes, you got the commercially-released version. To clear up any confusion, my answer also mentioned only various releases of the commercial version.

 

The early version with intro is an unfinished prototype, this thread is quite specifically NOT about it.

 

One of these days I may get around to taking a screen shot of every room and making a booklet out of it.

Why? There already are full maps available at http://mapy.atari8.info- well, barring this one broken room, as the maps were probably based on a crack of the Databyte release.

 

It is a scientific fact that married men live longer than single men. So guys, if you want a slow death...

Well I tend to think dying slowly is somewhat better than being already dead, but to be frank, I have pretty limited experience when it comes to dying.
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, you got the commercially-released version. To clear up any confusion, my answer also mentioned only various releases of the commercial version.

 

The early version with intro is an unfinished prototype, this thread is quite specifically NOT about it.

 

Why? There already are full maps available at http://mapy.atari8.info- well, barring this one broken room, as the maps were probably based on a crack of the Databyte release.

 

Well I tend to think dying slowly is somewhat better than being already dead, but to be frank, I have pretty limited experience when it comes to dying.

 

Thanks for the mapy.atari8.info site, I never knew it existed. I'll look around for some of my old favorite games there.

 

Thanks,

David

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Sorry to beat this dead horse once more...

 

I bought the U.S. Parker Bros disk version at Toys"R"US in the 80's. I know it is a PB product and think it was advertised in the mags here at that time. According to above, this version can be finished?

 

So there were 5 (common) versions?

1) Utopia disk version -- Europe?

2) Parker Bros. U.S. disk version

3) Prototype cartridge version

4) Released cartridge version

5) Cassette version?

 

It appears that Montezuma is taking his revenge on me!

 

-Larry

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Totally forgot about this thread. I guess I was not clear enough the last time, so:

 

There are 2 versions of Montezuma:

 

1. The unfinished CES demo by Robert Jaeger aka Utopia, with animated intro and all other bells & whistles, but lacking an ending. It was never published commercially.

2. The cut-down final version by Parker Bros. You can call it finishable, if you want 0 PB added level progression, so each level can be finished, but the 9th level repeats infinitely.

 

The PB version exists in the following formats:

- US disk release by PB,

- US disk release by BCI,

- EU disk release by Databyte,

- EU tape release by Databyte,

- prototype cartridge by PB, never published commercially.

 

The Databyte tape and the PB proto cart contain the room/audio bug, while the PB and BCI disks don't.

Edited by Kr0tki
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Which one is the cracked version with a title screen while loading? The title says something like cracked by Bruce , preliminary monty.

That is the one I knew and enjoyed, from a copied cassette.

Is there any difference wrt the no-utopia versions?

Edited by manterola
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Which one is the cracked version with a title screen while loading? The title says something like cracked by Bruce , preliminary monty.

That's a crack of the commercial version by PB.

 

Is there any difference wrt the no-utopia versions?

As stated above, it is the "non-Utopia" version.

 

Any way the Utopia version can be finished?

Nope, as admitted by Jaeger himself.

 

I think we should try to contact Robert Jaeger and see if he might be willing to add a quick end to it.

He was asked about it when interviewed few years ago - he was not interested. Interview (in Polish)
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

There's also another difference - the cartridge and tape versions do not play any sound when the sword is used. In the disk versions, the sound plays correctly.

 

I swear, I cannot seem to locate an ATR or XEX of this where the sword makes a sound when used. Could someone please help me out?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Hardly a surprise, a nigh on 40yr old program, there's no real impetus to bother with it...Still, its a shame...

 

I couldn't agree more with you; It is a shame, but I can't blame him either. Still, I am grateful for what he gave us! Who would have thought

that a game written 40 years ago would still generate such interest?

 

David

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The ATX's of PB and BCI releases are in Farb's "A8 preservation initiative" torrent.

 

An ATX file is fantastic for using with Altirra but I'm hoping to find a copy of the Parker Brothers disk release that I can play on real hardware via my UNO Cart.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

An ATX file is fantastic for using with Altirra but I'm hoping to find a copy of the Parker Brothers disk release that I can play on real hardware via my UNO Cart.

Take your pick: http://atarionline.pl/v01/index.php?ct=katalog&sub=M&tg=Montezuma%27s%20Revenge&PHPSESSID=8o81upprdeqrv1uu4cciledbv4#Montezuma%27s%20Revenge

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Databyte tape and the PB proto cart contain the room/audio bug, while the PB and BCI disks don't.

 

OK, I am a dope sometimes. As it turns out I did already have a copy of the Parker Brothers disk release in ATR format. It was tucked away in a sub-folder that I had all but forgotten about. It runs A-OK on the UNO Cart. Posting it here in case someone wants to check it against the ATX file.

Montezuma's Revenge _ Parker Brothers.atr

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...