Tempest Nut Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) I'm not convinced based on the gameplay video you posted. Show me how well this rotary works in the hands of someone that actually knows how to play the game, and I'll rethink my stance on it. I've been playing for a whole week now but I'm learning, I still believe a rotary controller makes the game easier to play and for someone that already knows the game inside and out I believe that after a small learning curve the precision of a rotary controller could take their game to a whole new level... Edited January 7, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Any ETA on a VR mode for this yet? I'm not really even getting into playing it hardcore until that becomes available.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I've been playing for a whole week now but I'm learning, I still believe a rotary controller makes the game easier to play and for someone that already knows the game inside and out I believe that after a small learning curve the precision of a rotary controller could take their game to a whole new level... I see little added precision by your method. As an example, see this video I recorded when the game came out. Note how on this web (multiple times) I stand in place and reach an arm out to one side to take out enemies next to me at the top. This is an extremely important technique, especially later into the game when it's easy to become overwhelmed before receiving the jump power-up. Is it possible to do this with your setup without sacrificing normal movement speed control? https://youtu.be/8tgEzUUOA8U?t=1238 Something else to keep in mind, Tempest 2000 and on are *not* to be played like the original Tempest (which I see you doing), at least not if you want to get anywhere in the game consistently. They might look like Tempest, but the finer details that make them tick are vastly different. No alternate control method is going to help you very much if you don't have a better understanding of how the games really work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I see little added precision by your method. As an example, see this video I recorded when the game came out. Note how on this web (multiple times) I stand in place and reach an arm out to one side to take out enemies next to me at the top. This is an extremely important technique, especially later into the game when it's easy to become overwhelmed before receiving the jump power-up. Is it possible to do this with your setup without sacrificing normal movement speed control? https://youtu.be/8tgEzUUOA8U?t=1238 Something else to keep in mind, Tempest 2000 and on are *not* to be played like the original Tempest (which I see you doing), at least not if you want to get anywhere in the game consistently. They might look like Tempest, but the finer details that make them tick are vastly different. No alternate control method is going to help you very much if you don't have a better understanding of how the games really work. Ya, I'm having an issue with my left trigger not working correctly with the modded mouse driver I need for my rotary controller to work as fast as I like it to, I have an idea on how to solve this but I haven't had time to try it yet so the only reaching I can do comes with risk because I can't make it stand still so I have to be careful reaching which is hard to do when things really pick up... And it seems like reaching works better in one direction vs the other like at the bottom of a round web I can reach out to the right much more easily without getting grabbed than the left, That is without the left trigger (brake)... I've been working on reaching without the LT a lot which doesn't show in that video because it's before I really started working on just that and It's not needed as much in those levels, But it would still come in very handy at times even in the easier levels, I've got to fix that dang LT issue though... Edited January 8, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) It turns out It's not the mouse driver but something in my modded Tempest4000.exe, It works fine in the un-modded .exe AND that left trigger becomes very important in the higher levels... What a bummer... :^( So close yet so far... Edited January 8, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 My copy finally arrived for my newly purchased Xbox One X today! Now if my Xbox would finally get here. I’m happy that my first purchase was an Atari game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Week 1.2 With Tempest 4000 With No Left Tigger Brake And Using My SpinTrak Rotary Controller... Slowly getting better and learning a little more... Edited January 9, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 No left trigger brake I meant to say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 For anyone that was wondering here are all of the achievements you can get for Tempest 4000 on Steam... Completed Path Bonus Finish one Path Bonus round A good start Get to level 16 Halfway there Reach level 51 Completed Finish all game levels Max lives Max out lives counter Risky rescue Get rescued by AI droid at distance Completed Rings Bonus Finish one Rings Bonus round Divinity Get the ANGEL bonus powerup CapaBULL Survive to level 9 in Pure Mode without loss of life DouBULL TrouBULL You and the AI Droid both get 25 or more kills on a level LoveaBULL Get 5 or more hearts during warpout. Where's me jumper Get to level 9 in Pure Mode without jumping Both Worlds Enter both Bonus Round types in one game. Long march Reach level 51 in Pure mode Ultra Survival Reach level 51 in Survival mode Pure skill Complete level 1-33 without dying RespectaBULL Survive to level 17 in Pure Mode without loss of life UnstoppaBULL Survive to level 25 in Pure Mode with no loss of life IndomitaBULL Get to level 17 in Pure Mode without jumping UnBULLievaBULL Get to level 25 in Pure Mode without jumping And the last one that's hidden is Ultra Atarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Played this for an hour today after my Xbox One X finally arrived and got an achievement! I feel so fulfilled and achieved. Edited January 10, 2019 by adamchevy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Played this for an hour today after my Xbox One X finally arrived and got an achievement! I feel so fulfilled and achieved. Which achievement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3555452 level 39, Not bad for playing for a few weeks and I hadn't played it for over a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) I'm up to 5237073 lvl 67 now using no left trigger brake and not playing for two weeks... Edited January 28, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) I think I'm getting the hang of it ? Or is it just my homemade spinner >? 7035173 level 86... Edited January 28, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Tempest 4000 Level 95 Is Insane!!! No place is safe ??? Edited January 28, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) Show me how well this rotary works in the hands of someone that actually knows how to play the game Can it be said that I actually know how to play the game now in your eyes? And if not then the only other thing it could be is the rotary controller? 7797793 Points Level 95, It's not the all-time highest score but I think it's pretty good for someone that's been playing for a month? Edited February 9, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Actually, it's 7,853,723 points and level 96 in Tempest 4000 classic mode making me 9th in the world... I just installed steam today so my scores will start showing up in the ranking online... Edited February 10, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I'm ranked 9th now in classic mode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) One more level to go and 8th in the world, Am I a "top tier" or an "elite" player yet Nuclear Pacman? Just a reminder, I've been playing on and off for a little over a month... Oh, and I have all but 4 of the achievements... Edited February 11, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Make that all but 3 of the achievements... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 One more level to go and 8th in the world, Am I a "top tier" or an "elite" player yet Nuclear Pacman? Just a reminder, I've been playing on and off for a little over a month... Oh, and I have all but 4 of the achievements... Haha, it is amusing that you have been so motivated to prove something. Do you really need my approval? I'm not the best and don't proclaim to be. I thought this was ultimately about if the rotary was superior to an analog stick? You would have to give an honest go of it with both on equal terms to truly know for yourself. If you want a serious answer here, I would say that I don't play 'Classic Mode', because that's the one that lets you continue. I'm more of a 1CC kind of guy (I rarely achieve 1CC's admittedly), so a true test of skill would be Survival Mode, or even Pure Mode. Classic Mode is the equivalent of credit feeding a shmup. I always play from the beginning and never continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 And done a handful of times with the highest being 8,770,913... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Haha, it is amusing that you have been so motivated to prove something. Do you really need my approval? I'm not the best and don't proclaim to be. I thought this was ultimately about if the rotary was superior to an analog stick? You would have to give an honest go of it with both on equal terms to truly know for yourself. If you want a serious answer here, I would say that I don't play 'Classic Mode', because that's the one that lets you continue. I'm more of a 1CC kind of guy (I rarely achieve 1CC's admittedly), so a true test of skill would be Survival Mode, or even Pure Mode. Classic Mode is the equivalent of credit feeding a shmup. I always play from the beginning and never continue. I'm 10th in Pure Mode without really trying, And you? Edited February 18, 2019 by Tempest Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 You won't see my high scores on the leader board anymore because my bank account got hacked and all the money was transferred out and I'm pretty sure it has something to do with steam somehow! My banks' fraud department is on it and I'll get the money back but I've wiped Steam from my computer and I won't ever be reinstalling it! I've never had anything like this happen so it's suspicious that a little over a week after I installed steam so my Tempest 4000 scores would show up on the leader boards and days after I bought a pinball game using Steam my bank account gets 3 transfers of money out one right after another draining my account, It could just be a coincidence??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Well there's the craziest overreaction I've seen today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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