Level42 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Been a while since I used any Mac to A8 connecting.... Is there a working AspeQt for OSX Sierra ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Been a while since I used any Mac to A8 connecting.... Is there a working AspeQt for OSX Sierra ? RespeQt is a fork from about 2 years back and works great. See the dedicated RespeQt subforum in this forum section. Here's the project page on GitHub: https://github.com/jzatarski/RespeQt/releases/tag/r4 And the OS X binary is here: https://github.com/jzatarski/RespeQt/releases/download/r4/RespeQt-r4-OSX.zip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks !!! Had to set Handshake to DSR to get it to work (as Lotharek's manual says...this time his manual was clear and I only read it later ) Does it matter if I select cu.usbserial-A7YHB1A2 or tty.usbserial-A7YHB1A2 ? Both seem to work. I'm getting some read timeouts during reads at High Speed mode POKEY divisor 0 but I guess I still need to snap off the caps from the SIO port of this 600XL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks !!! Had to set Handshake to DSR to get it to work (as Lotharek's manual says...this time his manual was clear and I only read it later ) Does it matter if I select cu.usbserial-A7YHB1A2 or tty.usbserial-A7YHB1A2 ? Both seem to work. I'm getting some read timeouts during reads at High Speed mode POKEY divisor 0 but I guess I still need to snap off the caps from the SIO port of this 600XL Good deal. Oddly, my $10 Raspberry Pi Zero W can handle POKEY divisor 0 perfectly, while my Core i7 gaming laptop has trouble going faster than divisor 1 and sometimes even 2. Same SIO2USB device, both running RespeQt r4, same .ATR or executable file. Go figure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Mmmm, weird. Having some issues loading stuff though now....even at standard speeds. While these ATRs work fine in emulation......mmmm.... I hope there's nothing wrong with my U1MB/Stereo Pokey set-up....O well....bed time now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hello guys Please remember: What you are talking about is SIO2PCviaUSB, not SIO2USB! This is SIO2USB: Sincerely Mathy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hello guys Please remember: What you are talking about is SIO2PCviaUSB, not SIO2USB! This is SIO2USB: Sincerely Mathy Well, you can say that. It doesn't make it so. The term is generic, whether ABBUC thinks otherwise or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Uhhh, yeah is there a trademark registered ? And what's the difference ? But yeah you are correct, Lotharek calls this Sio2PC-USB. But I don't see how this effects my thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Stupid question: does SIO2PC-USB require a USB3 port for high transfer speeds ? My trusty 2009 iMac only has USB2 but I assume these are still fast enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'd assume so, too as USB 2 should be fast enough raw to fill an entire 600XL with data in a split-second;) Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 As for the naming, distinguishing between different types of connectivity gadgets is less about copyrights and trademarks than about making it easier to find stuff. Even using Google AA is usually the main if not the only hit when looking up a problem and it's just easier when you don't end up on a thread covering somebody else's problem because of inaccurate naming. I fully agree, however, that there is no clear logical distinction between the SIO2USB and SIO2PC-USB names. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yeah, I see your point. That's why I totally hate the name (not the product !!!) The!Cart. It's a nightmare to use that at any search, Sadly I can't change the topic name anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Stupid question: does SIO2PC-USB require a USB3 port for high transfer speeds ? My trusty 2009 iMac only has USB2 but I assume these are still fast enough ? No, not at all. My 2011 MacBook Pro (may it Rest In Peace) handled all speeds just fine for my device running RespeQt. And I’m pretty sure my little RPi boxes are USB2 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hello DrVenkman If SIO2USB would be a device to connect an 8 bit Atari to a PC via USB, then SIO2RS232 would be the correct name for the device used to connect an 8 bit Atari to a PC via RS232. But we don't connect an 8 bit Atari to USB or RS232 via SIO2PC, we connect it to a PC. That's why it's called SIO2PC instead of SIO2RS232 or SIO2USB. The SIO2USB in the picture I posted above, DOES connect the 8 bit Atari to a USB-device. AFAIK not to every storage device with a USB port, but still it connects the 8 bit Atari to USB. Hence the name SIO2USB. And, as slx already mentioned above, it's easier to distinguish between the devices if we don't give them the same name. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 I officially object against the name Sio2PC because I am NOT connecting it to a PC (yugh...the thought alone makes me sick).....but to a Mac. So, from now on, I will be calling this little thing in this see-through plastic SIO connector the: Sio2Mac. :D :D And since Macs haven't had RS-232 interfaces since the dark ages.....there is no need for the USB part.... :D Oh by the way.....it works 100% perfectly now at 3x and divisor 0.....the issue I had earlier were bad ATR files and an apparent short inside my machine (see my U1MB thread). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 By the way: thanks for the quick and correct answer to my question Dr.Venkman ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hello Level42 Let's cal it SIO2PML (PC, Mac, Linux). Sincerely Mathy PS yes, to Dutch or German speaking people, that might sound a bit ... strange. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well, you can say that. It doesn't make it so. The term is generic, whether ABBUC thinks otherwise or not. The name SIO2USB implies connecting to a USB storage, same as SIO2SD is connecting to an SD card storage device. If the device is used to connect to a PC via USB IMO it should still be called an SIO2PC, or SIO2PC/USB to clarify the connection type. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 The name SIO2USB implies connecting to a USB storage, same as SIO2SD is connecting to an SD card storage device. If the device is used to connect to a PC via USB IMO it should still be called an SIO2PC, or SIO2PC/USB to clarify the connection type. Well, in my case, most of the time it's connected to a tiny Raspberry Pi Zero W whose sole raison d'etre is to run RespeQt and serve the whims of whatever Atari I have connected. Does that make the interface widget an SIO2Pi? Even when all the non-overhead storage on the vastly-oversized microSD card is devoted to Atari files? Does my widget change its name if I connect it to my gaming laptop (Windows) or one of the handful of obsolescent Macs in the house? Even though the one thing every one of these devices has in common is the USB port? Really? This is becoming silly, like those endless debates in the videogame collector groups on FB where people argue about whether Atari 2600 games were called "Atari tapes," "Atari carts," "Atari cartridges" or just "Atari games." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 SIO2PC is the generic term for the device, simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hello Level42 Let's cal it SIO2PML (PC, Mac, Linux). Sincerely Mathy PS yes, to Dutch or German speaking people, that might sound a bit ... strange. Sio2PieMeL does sound a bit weird indeed Mathy.... at least in Dutch.... :D Guys I'm just kidding around.....it's just a name. And factually it says PC for Personal Computer which doesn't indicate a OS. Else it would be SIO2Windows, SIO2Linux or SIO2OSX. But even so....when I hear PC I still think windows....oh whatever.....it works, that's what counts :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 This is becoming silly, like those endless debates in the videogame collector groups on FB where people argue about whether Atari 2600 games were called "Atari tapes," "Atari carts," "Atari cartridges" or just "Atari games." Yeah totall silly. But those terms are all wrong, it's Atari Cassettes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hello Level42 My 130XE came with a registration card. On it the 130XE was called a personal computer. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 In that case.... (I think Joe Decuir always uses that term for the A8 machines too): It should be called PC2PC. Mmm, yeah....very clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 To get back on topic a bit: Clipping out C89 and C90 sure did a LOT to improve the SIO2Mac performance !!!! Absolutely error free transfers now....not so before....I love these mods where you remove shit and things actually improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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