TI BASIC Manual besides blue book ( Beginner's BASIC )

[+jedimatt42]

Is there a comprehensive TI BASIC manual?

 

Not XB.

 

-M@

[ti99iuc]

I Think you could find a good one here: http://www.hexbus.com/tibooks/

[+jedimatt42]

Thanks! That section brings back memories I learned originally from the "Creative Programming for Young Minds" series.

 

I'll try the SAMS BASIC Reference Manual.

 

-M@

[+Lee Stewart]

Is there a comprehensive TI BASIC manual?

 

Not XB.

 

-M@

 

 

I Think you could find a good one here: http://www.hexbus.com/tibooks/

 

The User’s Reference Guide near the bottom of the books in the above link is the TI reference for TI Basic.

 

...lee

[+Ksarul]

This one from TI wasn't actually too bad. Actually, when I think about it, a huge number of the books including BASIC programs on the Hexbus site included a number of useful tips for regular TI BASIC programmers. A large number of them never made it into Extended BASIC programming at all. . .

[+jedimatt42]

The User’s Reference Guide near the bottom of the books in the above link is the TI reference for TI Basic.

 

...lee

That was the one I remembered The Green book, with the beautiful yellow bands

 

Thanks!

-M@

[PeBo]

Best manual is trial and error.

 

I taught myself BASIC thanks to type-in programs in magazines, and while 99er Home Computer is mighty pricey to collect in 2017, all the Compute! coil bound programming guides can still be had for a song. I can't imagine that you'd learn anything in an actual manual that is not available in those books, and you get practical experience using the tricks and tips to tweak the included type-in programs and make the your own.

[Sinphaltimus]

Best manual is trial and error.

 

I taught myself BASIC thanks to type-in programs in magazines, and while 99er Home Computer is mighty pricey to collect in 2017, all the Compute! coil bound programming guides can still be had for a song. I can't imagine that you'd learn anything in an actual manual that is not available in those books, and you get practical experience using the tricks and tips to tweak the included type-in programs and make the your own.

 

 

Is it sad that i want an OCR that can extract these in file programs and export them as txt so I can copy and paste into C99 to save a dsk instead of typing them in manually? It's be great to have a dsk compilation of all the programs found in these books without someone having to type them all in. I wonder how well a cut and paste would work. Not much if pages are graphic scans and not searchable/selectable text, which is where the OCR comes in I suppose.

 

EDIT: in about 30 minutes, I got through 4 programs but somehow forgot to save program 3.

The time includes:

Thinking about it for about 5-10 minutes.

Finding a book in PDF format with selectable text.

Trying it out.

creating a new DSK via TI99DIR and copying the programs over.

 

So I thought about it. I didn't want to do it, feeling lazy here. But I had some time between tasks waiting on computer so why not?

Find a book - I chose compute's-guide-to-extended-basic-home-applications-on-the-ti994a.pdf - I think i sourced it from WHTech, it's on my local hdd so source unknown. I included it here.

Find the programs, copy them in to notepad, fix obvious issues due to poor scan quality, copy paste into classic99 and run, fix any issues.

 

The experience stunk. OCE from poor quality scans in to text is going to have issues, finding them is going to be an issue and finally, I got 4 programs in and forgot to save program 3.

 

On the included DSK are 3 program 021, p22, p24 - These are Program 2-1, program 2-2 and program 2-4 as listed in the book.

 

Testing program 2-4, I got in to a wild goose chase with the program after fixing a lot of errors,. I simply could not get guess the correct number and it seemed the computer was changing the number as I guessed at it. Maybe this was the purpose of the program, I don't know, I didn't read the book, I only copy/pasted attempted to fix the code then saved programs and copied to dsk.

 

So in case it's not blatantly obvious, I'm not the guy to take on such a project. I also think that as programs get bigger and more complex, the time it takes to type them in manually may turn out faster than cut/copy/paste/fix.

But it was fun trying, until it wasn't. Thanks P24.

 

I return you now to your regularly discussed on topic thread.

computes-guide-to-extended-basic-home-applications-on-the-ti994a.pdf

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Edited September 19, 2017 by Sinphaltimus

[+jedimatt42]

Best manual is trial and error.

 

I taught myself BASIC thanks to type-in programs in magazines, and while 99er Home Computer is mighty pricey to collect in 2017, all the Compute! coil bound programming guides can still be had for a song. I can't imagine that you'd learn anything in an actual manual that is not available in those books, and you get practical experience using the tricks and tips to tweak the included type-in programs and make the your own.

Well, everyone learns differently. Most languages I learn in 2 parts, flow control and then inventory the function libraries. This works well for me for BASIC and C and Java, then Forth, Smalltalk, Clojure, are different as flow control are all just part of the function libraries, and you can create new flow control constructs yourself.

 

Anyway, I believe I have the flow control down for TI BASIC, and a good subset of the libraries, but now I want to exercise all of the FILE IO routines to their bounds and permutations to have 'integration-tests' for TIPI. For that, I need a reference manual so I can create the todo list.

 

Also, I'd say I know TI Extended BASIC better than I know TI BASIC, and I often need a reference manual so I can quickly find that some routine won't work in TI BASIC.

 

I plan to do the same for fbForth, and TurboForth, and libti99/gcc regarding TIPI.

 

-M@