majestyx Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Okay, so, after the fiasco of what happened to my original TI BASIC version of Oregon Trail I had posted here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/268340-tho-oregon-trail-for-ti-994/?p=3822181 with... well, I don't know what to say about the multiple versions that did nothing that I could notice to improve or enhance it, as well as versions that won't work on a stock TI... but anyway... and after seeing what could be done by Jim Gerrie on the TRS-80 MC-10: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/268340-tho-oregon-trail-for-ti-994/?p=3822550 , I figured I'd redo this in Extended BASIC. Of course my OCD made me decide to tighten up the TI BASIC version as well by fixing a few things I messed up logically as well as implementing some more efficient code thanks to suggestions by other members of the TI community here at AA. While I personally feel it's nothing to really get excited about (it wasn't a game I ever really played back in the 1980s when I had an Apple //c - I was more interested in Ultima, Wizardry, Bard's Tale and text/graphic adventures), I believe it's a more polished product, at least in the XB version. This was my first program ever in XB and since I wrote a TI BASIC version of it, I figured I'd ease my way into XB by working with something for which I had some familiarity. So for this version, I made pretty decent use of the DISPLAY/ACCEPT AT commands, implemented a simple ox & wagon graphic similar to what Jim Gerrie did, changed screen color, put in two simple tunes - a "charge" fanfare and a "creepy" four note stinger - as well as putting the instructions back in, made slightly more descriptive events, and added a bit more character that was, and still is, missing from the TI BASIC version. I did a decent amount of testing, but I surely could have missed something, particularly when it comes to losing or messing up on the trail, as I mainly played to win. While I was disappointed with what another member here did with my initial version, I still have to thank him for getting me to program it in the first place, and then giving me motivation, albeit not purposely, to create a better version of it. Also, a big thanks to carlsson, chue, and Casey (the 3 Cs - how 'bout that?) for suggestions on improving and optimizing the code, to JamesD for suggesting a look at Jim Gerrie's MC-10 version (as well as other ports he's done for that computer) and Tursi for Classic99. As much as I'd have liked to have used Rich's RXB, I figure I should do baby steps until I'm used to the good ol' standard XB. Plus it's cool to see what I could have done back in the day, if only I had the tools then. All credit for OREGON TRAIL goes to Dan Rawitsch and Bill Heinemann who developed the very first version of this back in 1971 and MECC for commercializing it. The version I used for reference is the one published in the May/June 1978 issue of Creative Computing, pages 132-139, for the CDC Cyber 70/73-26 in BASIC 3.1: https://archive.org/details/creativecomputing-1978-05 with additional material sourced from David Ahl's Westward Ho 1847 http://www.atariarchives.org/bca/Chapter02_WestwardHo.php Note that I do not have any TI hardware so this was developed and tested on Classic99 only. The attached ZIP contains both the Extended BASIC version called OREGONTEB and the newly revised TI BASC version called OREGONTR which can be placed in whatever DSKx folder you'd like in Classic99. Latest XB version available in this post: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/271162-oregon-trail-for-extended-basic-and-updated-version-for-ti-basic/?p=3872773 TIOregonTrail.zip Edited January 5, 2018 by majestyx 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Wow. The original code from 1978 is... so, like, totally un-optimized. Like, OMG, that must have been, like, totally the Dark Ages, and stuff. Gah! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Just noticed that I forgot to remove a debugging DISPLAY AT I used for timing the shooting routine in the version I uploaded. Fixed in attached download. EDIT: Didn't realize I could still edit my previous post. I could swear in the past there was a time limit of around an hour to do so. Anyway, either post has the corrected XB version. TIOregonTrail.zip Edited October 19, 2017 by majestyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramidavis Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Nice. After the original thread died out, i was not expecting yet another version. Very nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 So when is this gonna be converted into a FR99/FG99 .BIN? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 So when is this gonna be converted into a FR99/FG99 .BIN? I don't remember which thread.. but there was a whole discussion about converting TI Basic programs to .bins on one of the finalgrom threads (im sick and my atari age-fu is not great right now, haha) i commented that once i had a little time to mess with it I'd see if i could convert some of my dad's TI Basic demos to run on my finalgrom- seems like the EB ones did something different where they didn't behave the same as regular Basic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LASooner Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It's well done. I did find an error though, when stopping at a fort if I hit enter without entering a value for items to be purchased it breaks. It should either prompt you again or register no data as $0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddemann Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 End of life! No further updates! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Yeah, I was a little interested in continue the improvements of the original listing myself, but I've got more important things to do so good thing someone else took up the task and moved to a more comprehensive programming language with actual room for improvements. Perhaps one day I'll try to port some of the other games I pointed our eager tweenie to, but so far haven't surfaced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 It's well done. I did find an error though, when stopping at a fort if I hit enter without entering a value for items to be purchased it breaks. It should either prompt you again or register no data as $0 Thanks for noticing that. I'm guessing you mean the XB version? While it doesn't stop for me (it gives a warning but re-prompts to input the amount again), I really should have put in validity checking for blank. I've fixed that in both the initial purchase phase (which uses INPUTs) and in the fort routine (which uses ACCEPT ATs). I'll wait a little bit to see if anyone finds any other issues before posting an updated version. Unfortunately there's no room in the TI BASIC version to add this, but the program doesn't stop but gives the WARNING: INPUT ERROR IN line# so that will have to suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 End of life! No further updates! Silly me! Looks like I didn't get the memo! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LASooner Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Thanks for noticing that. I'm guessing you mean the XB version? While it doesn't stop for me (it gives a warning but re-prompts to input the amount again), I really should have put in validity checking for blank. I've fixed that in both the initial purchase phase (which uses INPUTs) and in the fort routine (which uses ACCEPT ATs). I'll wait a little bit to see if anyone finds any other issues before posting an updated version. Unfortunately there's no room in the TI BASIC version to add this, but the program doesn't stop but gives the WARNING: INPUT ERROR IN line# so that will have to suffice. Yes, it was the EB version I should have specified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 I found a few more things I needed to fix in the XB version so I've attached the latest bug fix here. Just the Extended BASIC version this time. OREGONTEB.zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Nicely done. The graphics really make a big difference in the presentation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTIGuy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Silly me! Looks like I didn't get the memo! haha. ... Sorry about the bogus updates, my word processor was set to discard everything but name changes... I added the first few lines in a different WP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTIGuy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Perhaps one day I'll try to port some of the other games I pointed our eager tweenie to, but so far haven't surfaced. Ohhh... that... I haven't had a lot of time on my hands... (hence my nearly-week-@-a-time-abscesses!) And the graphics... It makes my head spin! Ohhh... and by the way... I have been trying to get The Oregon Trail to work on a modern PC without an emulator... I did something similar with an old compiler years ago... just don't remember how :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTIGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Well, soon we will have an audio version, loadable on real hardware and select emulators. Just the cable got sent to my Grandpa instead of me so I will have to wait a week or so. I will post the audio file after I save it. See ya soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 First of all, I LOVE that you're tackling this! I have enjoyed my plays through thus far. I did find a bug, but you may already be aware of it... When I mis-typed a number into the field during a fort stop, It kicked me out. It was a mis-type on my part, but a simple error-check would fix this right up. Thanks so much for giving this a go. I've thought for quite some time about trying my hand at coding this one in XB as well, but always got sidetracked. I hope you continue your development of this project, and I am happy to see the excellent effort you've put forth. Thanks so much! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestyx Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) I did find a bug, but you may already be aware of it... When I mis-typed a number into the field during a fort stop, It kicked me out. It was a mis-type on my part, but a simple error-check would fix this right up. I am unable to reproduce this with the latest version of the program. Are you using the latest version that I posted here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/271162-oregon-trail-for-extended-basic-and-updated-version-for-ti-basic/?p=3872773 Edited January 3, 2018 by majestyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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