atarifan88 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 OK, here is the official statement on using PAL versus NTSC ROMs. I've confirmed that these are in fact the NTSC ROMs, it's just that the emulator renders it with incorrect colors. This and all other emulation quirks will be a non-issue with the 2018 HD products for a very good reason that I can't reveal at this time. Bill you tease! Does this include correcting the lag in the paddles as well for 2018? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bill you tease! Does this include correcting the lag in the paddles as well for 2018? Improving lag response throughout, including with the paddles, is a priority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 OK, here is the official statement on using PAL versus NTSC ROMs. I've confirmed that these are in fact the NTSC ROMs, it's just that the emulator renders it with incorrect colors. This and all other emulation quirks will be a non-issue with the 2018 HD products for a very good reason that I can't reveal at this time. Loving the sound of this ... perhaps I haven't thought it through sufficiently enough but I can only think of one way for 'emulation quirks' to become 'non-issues' (because there is no such thing as perfect, %100 emulation accuracy that I am aware of) and that is for there to be no emulation at all. And if there is no emulation then ..... thoughts of the FB2 come to mind :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Loving the sound of this ... perhaps I haven't thought it through sufficiently enough but I can only think of one way for 'emulation quirks' to become 'non-issues' (because there is no such thing as perfect, %100 emulation accuracy that I am aware of) and that is for there to be no emulation at all. And if there is no emulation then ..... thoughts of the FB2 come to mind :-) It will still be emulation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Not sure if we are allowed to post links, but Wal-Mart has a pretty good deal right now on the Activision edition. It's $62.xx and comes with three bonus posters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Do original paddles work in a Flashback 8 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Do original paddles work in a Flashback 8 ? Yes, they are compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+xucaen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I had two issues within a short period of playing time. 1) Combat glitched making one player unable to move after about 30 seconds into a game. 2) Warlords locked up about 4 games in. Has anyone seen this behavior? I'm just wondering are you are using wireless controllers or original wired controllers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetick1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Not sure if we are allowed to post links, but Wal-Mart has a pretty good deal right now on the Activision edition. It's $62.xx and comes with three bonus posters. and they also have AFP 2017 for $44.88 and free 2 day shipping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Guys - I hate to break it to you but Kaboom and paddles lag even in the latest and greatest versions of Stella. I've done side by side comparisons and given feedback/chatted about it in the Stella section of the forum. Getting that paddle emulation 100% is extremely challenging, and if your expectation was to play Kaboom like original hardware then those expectations were too high. In fact, you can get lag from real hardware if you have your console connected to a flat screen display. That game was just meant to be played in its original state on a CRT. The other reports of lag in Pitfall and Chopper Command are more disappointing to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 There will always be a lag of at least one frame in Stella and Kaboom, due to the way that events are read, and then rendered onscreen. This is the lower limit. If you run Stella (or any emulator, really) on a typical LCD TV, then you could get up to 2-3 frames more lag from the TV itself. I'm forced to agree that Kaboom is just one of those titles that was made for a real console and CRT TV. Not that we don't look to improve the experience in Stella, but in some cases it just isn't possible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) The other reports of lag in Pitfall and Chopper Command are more disappointing to me. FYI, I played both those on my HD Flashback and didn't get any lag. The cordless joysticks work great! Good to know about the lag in Stella. I still have my original Atari hooked up to a 28" tube TV and will try to hold on to it for as long as I can. Edited January 5, 2018 by atarifan88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Very excited to hear there will be a 2018 HD edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Very excited to hear there will be a 2018 HD edition. As long as this one has an SD card slot, then I'll be getting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 As long as this one has an SD card slot, then I'll be getting it. Or a cartridge slot, but I know that is likely wishful thinking. Even better would be the ability to dump roms similar to what the Retro Freak does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvis Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 I'm just wondering are you are using wireless controllers or original wired controllers? Wireless for Combat and original paddles for Warlords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zookeeper Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Saw a couple complaints out there about the controllers. Figured if I got a Gold, I'd just use original wired sticks/paddles. Anyone know if a CX78 (that 7800 pad-ish thing) or a Jag pad with the Best Elec adapters would work on them? These days I really prefer a pad. I'm one of those few (around here, it seems) that knows zero about technical stuff and just likes old games. Edited February 20, 2018 by Zookeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 OK, here is the official statement on using PAL versus NTSC ROMs. I've confirmed that these are in fact the NTSC ROMs, it's just that the emulator renders it with incorrect colors.Well, the official statement is incorrect. Its actually the PAL roms being interpreted as ntsc by the emulator, so its showing the PAL rom in NTSC colors. You can do the same in Stella if you load a PAL rom and tell it to use NTSC. Also, I pulled the roms off and confirmed they are the PAL versions, so I replaced them with the NTSC ones and the Flashback emulator plays them correctly. This and all other emulation quirks will be a non-issue with the 2018 HD products for a very good reason that I can't reveal at this time.That sounds VERY exciting. If what youve alluded to becomes 2018s product, then it sounds like Ill be buying yet another Flashback. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyb Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Help, my daughter just got me flashback 8 gold deluxe and I cannot get either controllers to sync Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 You should email AtGames. I'm sure they can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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