Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Thanks! But the menu is flickering though, its just my TV + camera does a good job of masking it. Too bad, I was hoping for a possible improvement of the Harmony menu. Joystick up/down moves up and down, left/right pages forwards and back, and of course you can use directories to help arrange things. Yup, that's the bare minimum. But you should consider other controllers or at least allow navigating the menu with the joystick in both ports. And since ROM file names tend to be quite long, IMO you should also think about a way to display the whole filename. Maybe have a look at the Harmony menu and code. And please let me know if you need help there. I love your conversion of Thrust by the way, it is probably my favorite title I played while testing the cart and I'm definitely planning to return to it - I'm sure it is way better than either the ZX Spectrum or Atari 8-bit versions from back in the day. Thanks a lot! People either love or hate the game. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3959309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHairy Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I guess it would take a considerable bit of work, but Eshu's 32 character kernel (http://atariage.com/forums/topic/180632-32-character-text-display/) and maybe its DPC+ friends would lend themselves nicely to a improved menu... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3959893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just a quick update on the project - after about a week of frustration and bad noises, I got DPC working and Pitfall II now seems to play fine, along with reasonable sounding music. So the cartridge now plays 100% of the 2600's classic library (well, at least until someone testing tells me otherwise). Latest firmware and sources are on github. Robin 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citrus3000psi Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) Very cool project. Do you plan to release the PCB design files soon? I'm not wanting to resell, just like to build one for myself. Edited February 13, 2018 by citrus3000psi Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Have you tried a 64k rom like zippy the porkupine. Sometimes 64k roms can be a real pain. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Have you tried a 64k rom like zippy the porkupine. Sometimes 64k roms can be a real pain. Yes, it seems to run fine (I only played it for a bit). The cart supports ROMs up to 64k. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yes, it seems to run fine (I only played it for a bit). The cart supports ROMs up to 64k. Sweet Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Very cool project. Do you plan to release the PCB design files soon? I'm not wanting to resell, just like to build one for myself. I haven't released the PCB files yet since I had wanted to produce some carts myself, to recoup my development costs. Although I'm doing this for fun as a hobby project, it's nice to at least cover my costs, or even better - earn a bit of money to sink into my next hardware project . You can build the project yourself right now, with a ST32F407 Discovery board. I'm going to get some more PCBs made once I hear back from the various people that I've sent carts to for testing. I'll post here when they arrive, so get in touch then if you want a bare PCB or a built board? Robin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citrus3000psi Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I haven't released the PCB files yet since I had wanted to produce some carts myself, to recoup my development costs. Although I'm doing this for fun as a hobby project, it's nice to at least cover my costs, or even better - earn a bit of money to sink into my next hardware project . You can build the project yourself right now, with a ST32F407 Discovery board. I'm going to get some more PCBs made once I hear back from the various people that I've sent carts to for testing. I'll post here when they arrive, so get in touch then if you want a bare PCB or a built board? Robin 100% agree with you. That's how I handle a lot of my projects. The discovery board is too clumsy for me. So I'll wait. I don't mind PCB assembly etc. Great project BTW. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHairy Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So the cartridge now plays 100% of the 2600's classic library (well, at least until someone testing tells me otherwise). Excluding supercharger, if I am not mistaken. But I plan to take a stab at implementing this myself once I get my cartridge (unless you beat me to it) 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3961893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Ah yes, sorry, forgot about supercharger. Would I need to add a audio jack to the PCB? Robin Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3962190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 No, the ROMs have been dumped. So you only have to emulate them correctly. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3962208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lguilherme Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hi how could I help this project? Let me know. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3962250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHairy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) My PCB has arrived. I have yet to do some more systematic testing of different ROM formats, but it has been working flawlessly so far. Edited February 18, 2018 by DirtyHairy 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3966207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hi all, Is there anybody in the UK willing to lend me an Atari 7800 console? I'm happy to cover postage costs both ways, and I wouldn't need it for long. It would be nice to get the UnoCart-2600 working on the 7800 and I'm not really willing to spend the prices I'm seeing on ebay. Robin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3979577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InactiveX Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 @electrotrains: I've sent you a PM. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3982729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackAttack Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hi all, Is there anybody in the UK willing to lend me an Atari 7800 console? I'm happy to cover postage costs both ways, and I wouldn't need it for long. It would be nice to get the UnoCart-2600 working on the 7800 and I'm not really willing to spend the prices I'm seeing on ebay. Robin I would suspect how you're reading the values from the address bus. The JRs and 7800s are notorious for throwing the wrong value on the address bus in between cycles. A12 seems to be the biggest offender. On my JR A12 will always go low for a small portion of each cycle even when transitioning from two locations that both have A12 high. I work around this by predicting the next address value in the Strong-ARM driver but that probably wouldn't work with regular bank switch schemes. Instead you may need to introduce a delay between when the address bus starts changing and when you read it or just read it multiple times and throw out any transient values. Too bad I didn't take you up on your offer for a PCB. I have a 7800, JR and logic analyzer already set up for exactly this type of issue. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3986337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) I would suspect how you're reading the values from the address bus. The JRs and 7800s are notorious for throwing the wrong value on the address bus in between cycles. A12 seems to be the biggest offender. On my JR A12 will always go low for a small portion of each cycle even when transitioning from two locations that both have A12 high. I work around this by predicting the next address value in the Strong-ARM driver but that probably wouldn't work with regular bank switch schemes. Instead you may need to introduce a delay between when the address bus starts changing and when you read it or just read it multiple times and throw out any transient values. Too bad I didn't take you up on your offer for a PCB. I have a 7800, JR and logic analyzer already set up for exactly this type of issue. Hopefully I'll get it working - someone has kindly offered to lend me a 7800, so I should be able to get to the bottom of it. I sent a couple of test firmwares to someone in the USA with a 7800 and managed to get normal and bankswitching catridges working without any problems. So electrically things seem to be fine, and the basic cartridge emulation routines are also fine. It just seems to be the menu that is causing problems - the 7800 boots to straight to the built-in Asteroids. I suspect the 7800 BIOS is interacting with the cartridge<->MCU comms, but it wasn't quite as straightforward to debug as I was expecting.... Robin Edited March 16, 2018 by electrotrains 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3986423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I want... no, NEED this! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3986666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's been a while so time for an update on this project! There is now a new firmware version available on the github page, which adds Atari 7800 compatibility and Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger support. With these changes, the cartridge will now play all the classic 2600 games. The 7800 fixes are thanks to InactiveX, who lent me a PAL 7800 for the last few days, and MacRorie, who tested it on an NTSC 7800. DirtyHairy has added the Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger support with up to 256 loads (2MB ROM files!). The source code and new manual are both also on the github page. I also built 10 cartridges using ENIG (gold) pcbs a couple of weeks ago, but hadn't announced it yet since I was waiting to be able to program them with the new version of the firmware. Most of them are already spoken for, but there's a couple left if anybody wants one. The price will be £25 + P&P (£4 USA/Europe, £2 UK). If you'd like one of the spare carts, let me know here. First come first served. (Though if enough people are interested, I will probably make another batch). Robin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3998033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x7 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 PM sent, thanks. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3998058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 PM sent. Thank you. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3998081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) That's the current batch all spoken for - but let me know if you still want one and I'll see about making another batch. Edited April 1, 2018 by electrotrains Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-3998083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x7 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I got one today and it is really great. The only issue is the menu is displaying the first 77 file names in a folder. Is there a limit, or should I arrange the files differently? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-4011260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 The UnoCart-2600 only displays 80 items per directory. It's just the way I wrote the firmware and its documented in the manual. Robin Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/274832-unocart-2600-a-diy-sd-multi-cart-for-the-2600/page/2/#findComment-4011414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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